TURN 1 - Player Count
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welcome to Whose Turn Is It Anyway your board gaming podcast where we talk about on occasions board game conventions and
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yes this is the second UK Games Expo coverage where we're going to basically
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present you the live episode that we recorded on the Friday um at the show and uh yeah so in this episode you can
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expect the whole live episode which we've cut up and we're also covering the uh the interviews that we did with
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various different publishers and designers and also Rob has managed to get some snippets with some of the
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general folk that have attended the UK Games Expo this year so sit back and relax and I'm going to hand you over to
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me uh to introduce the live episode [Music]
TURN 2 - Whose Turn Is It Anyway LIVE 2025!!!
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okay welcome to the Who's Turners Anyway podcast live we are here at the UK Games Expo 2025
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[Applause] woohoo it's always nice to get a bit of
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feedback from the audience because normally when we do this we are sat in a room my dining room um and no one really
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cares doesn't it the dog the dog comes the dog comes in but that's that's because he usually needs a wee yeah I
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was going to say and we have to pause and let him out and it's Yeah all behind the be fair gone of the days where he
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used to sit underneath the table farting all evening so you know it's better from that it's better for sound quality and
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air quality i think it was better but there we go but no thank you for all coming to the show um this is our second
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time doing a live episode which you'll tell because you know we're a bit bit rusty um but no thank you all for being
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here so they've nicely extended this dice room from last year right this is a bigger room from memory yeah we needed
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it yeah we needed it cuz it's it's thriving so it's good um so no everyone
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here you probably have laminates on your laps or on the chairs give them away for me
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that's the sound you can hear it awesome so this just means it's a bit of interactivity in in the show so you get
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to do something while we we rabbit on and talk about nonsense and games um so
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the first question you can use these laminates is have you heard of us before yes or no
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come on there we go aiden aiden good so
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we have how many no so one two two well welcome welcome to the show guys um so
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basically for those two of you that don't know who we are which is amazing um we're a podcast based in the
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southwest of England we started um three years ago literally just had a third
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birthday not long back uh which is mad when I sit and think about 3 years uh
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having the decision to actually do this was crazy now we're sat at the UK Games Expo talking it's just absolutely mad um
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but yeah we're just a gaming group in the southwest we're based in in and around Taton in Somerset we represent uh
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all the usual stereotypes apply um and yeah we've been playing tabletop games
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for probably nearly 10 years pro well a lot of us are different varying years but as a group in about kind of yeah
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nearly 10 years so and we thought why the hell not we talk about games all the time let's record it and that's what we've been doing so yeah we what makes
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our show a little bit different for those that don't know is we have an army of people as you can tell not everybody
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in the podcast is here today there's a couple of members um or a few members that couldn't make it and uh we have a
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first player system so whenever um basically a first player steps up to the
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mark they run three episodes and they get to decide what content we get to talk about which makes it really
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variable even for us recording it so we have no idea um so if Becky's run at the minute right you're you're talking about
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uh all things Becky which is like nature games and uh nature games i I haven't done any kind of blinging episodes this
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time but I did I did a blinging blinging up your game episode but everyone kind of has their unique uh vibe and they
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kind of bring it to the to the table and we get to talk and it's just good fun um and we have some wacky episodes we have
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some serious episodes we we just anything's on the table just depends what comes up in the mind now some of us are more wacky in the podcast anyway
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which you'll know if you've listened to us so there we go um so basically that's a little bit about us so I I won't go
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into the full rundown of what we're going to do today um but really it's a game of two halves if you came to the
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last year's show it's pretty similar in terms of how we're going to break it down but what we're talking about is a bit different
INTERVIEW 1: Word on the Expo Street with Chris
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hello it's Rob i'm here at Expo and I'm here with Chris uh Chris is one of our
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listeners uh so I'm just going to ask you three quick questions if that's cool i don't want to keep you from all the fun uh but can I ask is this your first
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time with Expo or have you been before no I've been before this is my third amazing uh what have been your previous
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experiences of Expo overall experiences excellent they've been really really good um I'm not as big a gamer as you
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are um but it's it's such such a great place to come to compared to me mate
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you're probably more probably on the same level well I'll take that as a compliment then thank you uh what's you
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know what what have you been looked forward to most at this one what's been what's been your highlight so far I should say so with this one the more
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times you do it the better you get at it so it's better managed so you can do more um and you experience more and you
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know what you're looking for so coming for a third time I know what to expect a little bit cool um my expectations uh
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this time was to try as many new things new games as I could cool um while
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walking around the hall not so much spending the money but to try something new and something I haven't done before
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so which was what what what was the thing that you were like "Oh that was awesome." Um I had to go back i bet it
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was awesome i did Apex the first time last year and I had to do that again this year nice i wasn't ever going to
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invest in Apex or ever see it on a table anywhere cuz it's it is a proper commitment speak speaking nicely to JP
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i'm showing some I'm hoping to sometime in the future maybe too so uh having another hour and a half hour and a
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quarter on that was uh that was good that was a really really good experience awesome man finally what is your
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favorite game of all time um depends on who I'm playing where I'm playing that's not the question that's
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not the question that's not If I was going to pick one above all else absolutely lords of Lords of Water Deep
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with all the expansions amazing amazing good choice curly will be very happy um so thanks for taking the time man
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appreciate it thank you uh so yeah I think first up Becky is
Board Game World Cup - Slay the Spire vs Here To Slay
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your segment thank you again to everyone that's here it's really lovely to see people and know people actually listen
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which is bizarre when you just sort of sit in this side recording in JP's living room it is weird uh thanks to everyone for coming so um every year
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every year we make our version of a top trump card game from our favorite games of that year beautifully illustrated by
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JP we do sometimes share the pictures because they are crap horrifically
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goodly horrific horrifically good i don't know which way it was the Serenetti hippo that got you right like a pirate poo but we won't go um so this
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year we're doing a similar sort of thing we're going to do we're going to basically get you guys to decide what's going to win this time because
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unfortunately or fortunately this year's winner was Terraforming Mars but so was
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last year's winner so we're kind of going to maybe if we have your kind of say maybe maybe it won't be Terraforming
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Mars or maybe it will because it is awesome so without further ado we're going to get our pairing so we've done
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it kind of like a World Cup so we've randomized and it it is random i did do it at the work computer it was random um
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we've got Slay the Spire by Contention Games from 2024 and I'm going to talk
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about that and it's up against Ta Turtles 2020 game Here to Slay
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so Slay the Spire it's a cooperative deck building adventure you basically kind of craft a unique deck and
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encounter bizarre creatures based on the computer game i don't know if any of you have played that also you discover
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relics of immense power and finally become strong enough to slay the spire so that is going to be your pink side or
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not side for Becky often not well well not not voting yet Rob not voting yet
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too here to slay takes us away right here to slay it's a cute little party
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one to six player game it's uh hand management uh dice rolling um it's a
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cute little Pokémon characters um and it's bit of a stitchy game so you can roll and manipulate other people's turn
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so you can take away cards um put modifiers on their rolls so it's like you can upset people and it's first to
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slay three big monsters or get a big set of leaders um of seven leaders so it's
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you can either and you put loads of heroes on your own table so you got your own tablet going um it's good fun really really good fun and it knocked Captain's
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chair out which made JP absolutely livid i was pissed off he was so sad so pink
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for slay the spire and blue for here to slay vote now please everyone
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so we've got one two three four five six seven eight nine pinks one two three four seven eight nine takes
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it here he takes it again we love here to slay this makes me very sad has anyone loves to spy but has anyone heard
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of slay the spire generally yeah yeah has everyone heard not as much as here to slay fine yeah has everyone heard of
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Here to Slay okay well fair enough it's It's gone through again clearly I played it first
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time the other day it was very good there's a promo card for today if people last year's promo card still available for here to slay do you work for them
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are you part of Ta Turtle Game is he just called someone out for pushing
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products are you on the stand talk either adrian are you on the stand no you'll get your
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turn hello it's JP here from Who's Tellers
INTERVIEW 2: Eleni from Czech Games Edition (SETI: Agencies, Wispwood, Codenames & Galaxy Trucker Do What?)
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Anyway podcast and we're here with a lady from Check Games Edition how you doing hello i'm good how are you i'm
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great thank you and we we just sat down and went through lots of detail around these new upcoming releases and some
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releases here right but what what have we got coming up what's really exciting yes so uh most of these are prototypes
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uh these two games are coming out at Essenfield i can show you like this is work in progress still uh but the main
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idea of the first expansion for STI is that we introduce the space agencies uh which is uh a new like a a way uh to
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introduce asymmetry in the game so players will be able to have variable powers uh in the game like with
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different starting resources different different income different abilities and so on um and with the the new setup
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cards the new quick setup cards you uh can also play the game in four rounds now uh which means that you dive right
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into the action of the game oh yeah and of course we'll have like new alien species you can see uh there's one of
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them there's going to be three new alien species and 11 new space agencies um
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there's going to be loads of new cards uh new small mechanics uh the you can
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use the the quick set of cards to boost the two-player games and yeah this is uh
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Space uh Agency i'm excited for this one i'm not going to lie i'm very excited too i'll get to see some new stuff it's
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really cool yeah brilliant and this is our new title for uh Essen release this
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is again a prototype it's called Wispwood you're trying to build a forest collecting uh different colors of
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magical wisps uh which when built into your grid uh they can give you points
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according to uh different placement uh scoring rules um so it's it's very
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simple it's one of the the lighter games of CG uh so you want to place the wisps
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on your grid to collect the points uh you pick one of them when it's your turn
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and place them like in this shape or this shape using the tree tiles to build the polyominos and you also have uh
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these cats uh that help you uh sort of when you use them you can mix and match
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sort of uh what you can take from the offer and then the cat goes to hide and you can use it again later and uh the
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basic thing about this is that it's played in three rounds the first round you build a 4x4 grid the second round
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you build a 5x5 and the six a 6x6 so it's it's expanding but you're keeping
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the same wisps in each round you you discard only the trees so you have to
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think differently every round about how you build uh your grid amazing nice and
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uh this is um a very exciting project of ours because code names turned 10 years
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uh this year it's our 10th anniversary so we decided to give it a fresh look uh
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a more contemporary look and uh basically we've changed a lot of things except for the gameplay the gameplay is
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the same is what you have known and loved but we wanted to give like um uh
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unique agent illustrations uh for for for the agent tiles including these
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pigeons that are completely new and uh also the key cards have different like
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more vibrant color so you can see them in in the dark and also different backs
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uh the rule book is written differently like more uh new uh player friendly we
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have um an insert which is completely new as well uh there's only one thing
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removed and that's the sand timer but we also have an app called companion which
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you can use to to time your games if you want to because we know that people don't really use the timer in the game
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and uh one other thing is that some of the words have been removed because we have a lot of data from our online games
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uh so basically we know which words are harder to connect and so on so we have removed these words and put in new words
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according to the data that we have in 10 years of playing code names yeah that's really cool so yeah this is a new era of
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code names and all the other games are coming out as well pictures duets and so on later on in the year nice
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and and last we have uh the new expansion for Galaxy Trucker it's called Do What and uh it's a Gen Con release uh
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it's an expansion for uh the base game of Galaxy Jugger and basically it it
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gives you more crazy uh missions and ways to to to build your ship it's even
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more chaotic and uh do what is basically the reaction you you're going to have when you read what you're supposed to do
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uh in in the game there's two modules like the the missions which give you new
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rules uh new components uh like explosive cargo and so on super cards
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that are particularly harmful uh and also there's another module called uh
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the VIP mode uh which you get um very quirky demands of very important
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passengers that you have to place on your ship uh so all of that makes it
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more unpredictable because so far you know how to build your ship and everything but with this it it mixes up
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things a lot but will you keep your ship alive at the end probably not probably not this galaxy quicker so exactly
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exactly so lots and lots of stuff coming out of this year yeah yes yes definitely
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keeping yourselves busy very much well thank you very much thank you guys thank you enjoy the show
Board Game World Cup - Nucleum vs Great Western Trail
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the next pairing we have got a board and dice's 2023 game Nucleium which is going
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to be uh me given to us all by JP mhm go
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on JP yeah you want it right now right nucleium gets compared to Brass
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Birmingham a lot and Barrage uh it's basically David Turtzy's very heavy
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thinky train like uh rail building network game um it makes your brain hurt
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and uh yeah and sometimes Curley has a good time with it don't you every night I had a proper meltdown last time I
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played that never playing it again proper toys out the prime moment wasn't it but uh yeah I kept my composure i'll
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have you you did you did but it's Yeah it's a good game really great game and uh yeah it's it's it's completely
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different they got about a million expansions out already and like an expansion i love them so bring it on so
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Nucleum so Nucleium on your pink side and on the blue side is Egot Spiel's 2016 game Great Western Trail take it
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away Curly yeah so Great Western Trail an absolute classic um one of my favorite games the premise of it is
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you're going along the old Great Western Trail which is basically kind of a cattle wrangling cowboy style game um
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and the idea of the game is you're going to be moving around the track a certain number of spaces and over the course of it you're going to create your own sort
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of worker spaces you can go on um and collect more cows to then sell at market and things like that they've done a load
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of different expansions as well new Zealand where you got sheep and you've got a shearing element to that and yeah
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it's just one of the absolute classics and one of our favorites in the group as well we play it very regularly it's got the little hats on the meeples the
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second edition so that'll be Yeah the second edition yeah so they've re-released it it was so popular what 3
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years ago yeah about that yeah about different versions now yeah yeah now they got a cool little cowboy hat you can even detach it they're beautiful i
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like it so pink for Nucleium and blue for Great Western Trail make Oh
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I think that's the classic rains the classic blue blue takes it great Western
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Trail is through david crying sorry David i was feeling the pressure on that
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one hi everyone it's JP here again at the UK
INTERVIEW 3: Viktor Peter from Mindclash Games (Trickerion Arcane Arts)
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Games Expo on the first day Friday and I'm here with none other than Victor Peter from Mind Clash Games one of our
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favorites i always love speaking to Victor cuz he's got all the goodies so yeah how you doing Victor doing great thank you yeah you having a good show
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yeah yeah so far not super busy today hope it will pick up we are getting ready for tomorrow oh I'm sure
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tomorrow's the day usually it's going to get mad i'm here to talk about the new Jakarion expansion which to me came out
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of absolutely nowhere and and it's just such an exciting uh campaign that you you've ran recently what 10 years kind
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of the original one right yeah it's a 10 year anniversary and then we knew all along that Trarion has like a very
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strong uh fandom right um it's it's been a bit of a slow burner game when it came
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out it didn't came out with such a huge bang but this is our second uh This has
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been our second uh deluxe edition so far and both have been very popular and it's just great to see many many people
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discovering the game again after all these years and it basically great to see that he's still relevant yeah we're
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massive fans of Tracer in our gaming group uh you can't see behind the camera is Curly and and Curley's a big guy he's
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probably our best player at Traparion and he always kicks our our asses um so what's the expansion all about so what
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do what can we expect from our copies that we've backed oh yeah so the big thing about the the deluxe edition and
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the 10 year anniversary is a new mini expansion called the arcane art so the
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big thing about it is that it fits into this small little uh tray that actually fits into everyone's collector
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traditions if they have that that that is a genius decision i love the fact that you can still get this in the big
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box that most people will have yeah no I I this was the number one thing we we we
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knew we needed to do we we just couldn't invalidate the collector's editions that people have so we we realized that we
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still have a little space where the bags are and the bags could go on the top so we just filled that space with some good
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stuff nice um so what's going on here is we have basically three new stuff in this uh
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three new things in this expansion we have uh some arcane workers we have a bunch of arcane or rather enchantments
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that are special components and we also have a bunch of new prophecies and some
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new uh shards over there nice uh which are basically
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uh your trickarian shards but enhanced in power nice okay super trickarian shard exactly mhm so what happens is
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that a mysterious figure called the arcanic arcanis shows up in in town he has this little wagon and he acts as
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like a mobile location offering uh PE players something beyond illusion almost
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like real magic to to boost their stuff um this this little uh marker it moves
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around every round uh so it's like downtown and one of the locations so if
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you visit those locations you can also spend some action points to to do some shopping at the arcane wagon as well
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okay and he offers you uh first he offers you his arcane workers they are
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they go on the apprentice slots and they have various powers for example the golem i I like that guy the most i think
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he's u he has three action points just like a magician so So he does really some heavy lifting but he can only go
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first or last in in your turn order and both can be a bit of a bit of a problem
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if if if you don't don't line his actions up quite well and then similarly
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the others have some some cool special abilities as well just like for example the spectre who can uh go on a location
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even if it's full because it doesn't occupy a space at all or the shape shifter that can take the place of uh
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basically it can act as any of these specialists so those are the arcane workers they
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they are also some of them actually uh need to be paid shards instead of coins
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but uh it's usually worth it for the power that you get and then we have the enchantments the enchantments basically
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when you get them for some money and some action points they can uh replace
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your uh two money worth of your components when you when you assemble your tricks but when you do that you
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they go on the tricks uh so basically they ancient them permanently asking them a buff kind of thing yeah exactly
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they buff them and the way they buff them is that we have these two dice one of them shows you which enchantment is
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active uh in any given turn i see and the other one shows what it does uh when
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Oh nice so when you have a trick in the theater that has this enchantment for
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example in this case when you perform it it also gives you one um special assignment card on top of what it what
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it normally does brilliant okay these uh dice are rolled randomly but just like every other die in the game you can
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manipulate them here with these actions you can just set them and then lock them in for the rest of the turn perfect it's
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it's it's cool because it's useful in two ways it can replace your components and it can give you bonuses
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really help you that flexibility sometimes in the game where you can you can get yourself into a bit of a pickle
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which will carry on i' I've done it many times where you're going "Oh no." Um so it's nice to find different avenues to
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kind of get yourself out of that so yeah exactly the best thing about it is that it loosens up the component requirements
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and and uh basically unlocks more more roots in which you can go through your tricks so even if someone buys your
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trick that you were looking for which is usually an infuriating moment in trickerary this helps a lot with that
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yeah and that's quite good because I can imagine the the original component matrix that you had to design is like
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you can't really mess with that because if you did then the whole tricks and everything else is built around that
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matrix right yeah exactly it's been an age-old problem that the trick trick matrix needs to stay the same i mean we
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a while ago we had the signature tricks with the dawn of dawn of technology expansion that was also like a quite
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hard thing to to get yeah I bet yeah excellent so for people are like interested in this uh obviously the
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campaign's been and gone can they get their hands on it as late pledges yeah absolutely we are still running late
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pledges for a while uh and it's it's also going to be in essence so if there you're in essence and you can pick it up
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there okay fantastic well thank you very much so much have a great uh expo and uh
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I'm sure you'll be busy busy very soon thank you very much cheers thanks guys
Board Game World Cup - Terraforming Mars vs Arcs
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so coming up we have got Frick's Games 2016 game one of my absolute favorites
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here Terraforming Mars not a surprise oh my god it's been played to death it has been played to death and it did win the
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last two years because because it deserves it quite frankly in my opinion it's amazing i'm not disputing that it's
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great i'm sure you've all heard of it however you basically control a corporation um aiming to make Mars habitable increasing the oxygen uh
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increasing your temperature and laying down oceans it's a engine building resource management tag collecting space
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adventure which is one of my favorite games ever so that will be your pink side people pink side for that one blue
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we're going to have Arcs yeah leader games 2024 arcs go on okay so Arcs is a
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fun competitive brilliant sharp tactical space battling game uh you gain resources by production or by stealing
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off other people which is the main part of it which is the fun part you love the back stuff he wants i know yeah but you put one there i get him arcs has an
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interesting unique It has a very good unique card trick system which plays your action so you got to follow the leader to then and you got to follow the
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suit and the number which is a very interesting mechanic um makes it very difficult as well very very hard you got
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to think about it um the battle system is also interesting you can roll you choose how many dice to throw in it and
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how dangerous you want them to be so there's 50/50 dice there's more dice that will throw damage back at you so you got to manage it that way which is
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really good fun um yeah and it's got a great expansion as well which brings a whole new element but I won't go into
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that but um yeah and there's a lot of different a mechanic asymmetric sorry um
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aliens or races yeah yeah nice it's what we call knobbyby very nobby game so pink
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for terraforming Mars and blue for arcs oh 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 2 3 4 5 six
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seven eight blue oh terraforming Mars gets through damn it the people have spoken i love ter the people have spoken
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it's not just us sometimes
INTERVIEW 4: Word on the Expo Street with Josh
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cool it's Rob i'm here at Expo and I'm with Josh hey man how you doing i'm good
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mate you yeah good i got three quick questions for you if that's cool possibly four depending on time that's
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all right uh so firstly have you been to Expo before uh yeah I came last year with uh T and New awesome so this is
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your second time yep cool man uh what's been your your kind of overall experience of Expo uh it's been really
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fun cuz you get to try out all these new games that you probably would never try out and yeah it's just good fun just
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chilling with the guys and playing the games awesome man uh so what's been your highlight of this one what's been your
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what's been your takeaway highlight of this expo uh Kai has probably been hop
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to be fair marcus how amazing or Kimfire Delve was a really really fun
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game that I quite enjoyed awesome and hopefully tomorrow I'm really really want a game of Galaxy Trucker see if I
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can get that in cool yeah great game silly nonsense build a spaceship out of
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junk and hopefully get to the end with everything intact oh that's awesome man um so if I was to put you on the spot
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what is your favorite game of all time favorite game of all time
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bag of Dungeon bag of Dungeon yeah I can't lie bag of Dungeon i I I will happily take that that's a great game
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man mate and especially if if you're providing the second edition for the little campaign I reckon that'd be sick
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i'll see what I can do dude thank you Josh much appreciate it man no problem cheers man
Board Game World Cup - Endeavor Deep Sea vs Twilight Imperium 4th Edition
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okay coming up next we've got Burn Island Games 2024 release of Endeavor Deep Sea this will be your pink side
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endeavor Deep Sea do you like submarines yes everyone brilliant um basically it's
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a submarine game and you uh explore the depths of the oceans you're doing kind
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of marine biology research with turtles exciting it's great um and it's kind of
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an evolution of the Endeavor series so if you've played Endeavor or Endeavor Age of Sale or Endeavor insert something
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else here that I can't remember uh it's basically their latest version of it and uh it's it's it's good fun it's really
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good fun it's got a nice um kind of action kind of progression with the game where at the start you're doing like one
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or two actions and then by the end you're doing about 75 and it's just fun so yeah endeavor Deep Sea that would be
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your pink side on the blue side we've got Fantasy Flight Games 2017 Twilight
29:04
Imperium twilight Imperium an absolute classic um so it's kind of the original
29:09
for me anyway 4X game um space adventure space politics you can play as lions i
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mean what else could you possibly want and turtles and turtles you know yeah it's absolutely perfect space turtles um
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yeah so the idea of it is you're going to be exploring around the universe getting new sort of uh planets to join
29:28
your federation and it's a VP gathering game um it's good enough to save the company at the time I believe right it
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was you know such a big seller um they used to go to conventions with a whole box of them to you know in the halls of
29:40
Jen Con they didn't even get into Jen Con they were in the halls paddling it yeah pedal
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yeah so um yeah one of my favorites we get it to the table it is an all day event pretty much although we've started
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playing at four player recently so anyone who thinks it's too long try at four player really shortens it down and still keeps most of the Yeah it's still
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about eight hours no I'm joking four five pink for Endeavor Deep Sea blue for
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Twilight Imperium oh so blue 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Blue 1 2 3
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4 5 6 7 8 9 10 pink get him endeavor deep sea oh no what cury's living i'm
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disappointed in all of you
INTERVIEW 5: Chris Priscott from Unfringed Games (Fetching Feathers)
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hello everyone it's Saturday and I'm here with Chris Scott Pmanf fringe.co
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who designs the great game Zulie Molehill Meadows and a special new one that you're debuting at Expo so fetching
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feathers what's it all about Chris you are trying to attract fancy flocks to
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seasonal sanctuaries a similar line to Zuli um where you are drafting cards
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birds and locations trying to fit those birds at locations to score points with you know a number of bonuses and combos
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but to throw an extra spanner in the works uh the season changes at the end of every round and uh all of those birds
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that had fish no longer have fish so now you need to figure out how am I going to keep these birds through this season in
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order to have them for the last season nice okay so how does it kind of differ between your other games that you've done um so it actually started as a
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little bit of an expansion to Zuli and then I realized in Zuli having birds in
31:20
enclosures doesn't really make sense because you know they just kind of fly away so they uh it kind of developed
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from that and actually I realized it's going to be nice as a extra game i can make mechanics unique to birds that
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don't affect animals in Zuli and they kind of develop from that and I love the idea of seasons actually for a while
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seasons were you know maybe day and night in Zuli could have been interesting and actually this flipping
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mechanic I really like the idea of so nice how's the reception been so far oh
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crazy yeah very very good like the cues this morning were a little nuts i always
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feel very disappointed i can't give everyone a copy very limited copies this
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weekend um uh but yeah people people really seem to be really enjoying it so
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that's amazing that's amazing so when can people get their hands on Fetching Feathers uh good question so good
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question uh hopefully coming to crowdfunding of some kind um September
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October time um but if you follow our newsletter on the website um I will let
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you know there which one we choose whether Game Found Kickstarter you know some kind
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is just follow him follow the company follow the publisher follow it and you'll get all the goodies and news but
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if you love Zulie and you love Mohill Meadows I'm sure you're going to have a blast we haven't played it yet so uh
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we're going to at some point play it as short so great have a great show thank you very much bye-bye byebye
Board Game World Cup - Primal: The Awakening vs Andromedas Edge
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okay coming up next we have got uh Reggie Games 2024 Primal the Awakening
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jp for this pink for this one tell us about Primal the Awakening this is a game that Rob doesn't own but wishes he
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did yeah um basically if you've ever played Monster Hunter the the video game
33:08
it's that but not licensed with that IP but it's a lot better than Monster
33:14
Hunter board game um so it's a boss battler you're you're picking your weapon which is a deck of cards and
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you're basically smashing monsters to bits and yeah I don't know what else there is to say about it but it's just
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fun i mean a lot of people in the group have played it they love it absolutely love it and uh Davey who is also part of
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the podcast he's doing a live stream here's a plug he's doing a live stream on Gaming Rules every Fortnite pretty
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much playing through the the whole entire campaign of Primal so you get to see him oh you can win a copy yes thank
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you thank you Adrian you can win a copy of Primal the Awakening
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which is I think quite hard to get a hold of is it Rob is it hard to get hold of is it difficult is he having issues with this and it's very pricey very
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pricey but you can win a copy by just watching the vid i think you can comment on bosses being play i forget the thing
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watch the video they will tell you how you can win a copy you can heckle Davey just saying could be a thing you could
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do yeah so uh on the blue side we have got uh Cardboard Alchemy's 2024 game
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Andromeda's Edge tambo tell us about Okay Andromeda's Edge set in space um you take over an alien races i will say
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there's loads of different alien asymmetric abilities again that you can choose from which makes it different every time um so basically you launch
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ships from your um space station into the It's kind of like a worker placement onto the planets to gain the resources
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um and then all the tech and then you buy the tech from the resources you gain and then you go up these tech trees
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everyone loves a good tech tree like who doesn't love a good tech tree or is this more Yeah it's more of a check chart it
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goes Yeah and um Yeah it's really good fun again b you fight in it to fight
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other people but the battling is really good so you can do it so if you you could do it so you want to lose the battles so if you lose you get a cool
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resource that you set up um so you can just go in there and be pretty much again dicky and then is it a Has anyone
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noticed the theme and then just so you want to lose it but it stitches the other person up so it's good yeah it's really good fun and you get a really
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good engine going in your space station when you return your ships you activate all your stuff that you've gained for tech it's really really good fun one of
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my favorites so that is pink side for Primal the Awakening and Blue Side for Andromeda's Edge vote now people oh
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yeah the pink side has absolutely taken it oh two four six seven eight yeah pink
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side's taken it pink side no room Stuart no room clear out
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oh thanks Stuart yeah hey Stu for the recording podcast yeah for the recording
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stuart has just entered late fantastic very late it's better late than never late stuart's actually been on an
35:43
episode before if you've listened you have Stuart stuart's very shy that's why he comes in yeah and he doesn't like the
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attention so uh hello Stuart stop it you do hate people he does he hate you too
35:57
mate he hates people and he's a solo player what can he say
INTERVIEW 6: Jack Neville from Split Stone Games (Mycelia, Stag)
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hello everyone it's JP here at the UK Games Expo on Saturday and we're here with Jack from Split Sc hello Jack hello
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how you doing mate good yeah doing great good stuff i'm loving the stall it's very very kind of nature and just it's
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looking beautiful right it's one of the best looking stores I think here thank you i'm not evening you up i'm I'm actually meaning it but what's going on
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what's new in split stone so uh got the myia finally for sale which is here it's
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here uh and I'm also promoting the new expansion North American expansion very
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exciting so this um it includes a whole new set of cards with mushrooms uh
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native from North America y and it also brings in uh some new uh mechanics that
36:48
kind of elevate the strategic depth of the game so if you're a fan of My Celia it really kind of brings up another
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level and incorporates uh uh new elements like saplings and trees so it's
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really uh it's all about symbiosis with uh trees and nature and it's um yeah it's great it's good fun and it also
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comes with a fifth player which is purple color nice nice and um yeah
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that's it so that's what I'm uh it's the new the new thing the new thing is coming so when when is it going to be
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available uh August Kickstarter i don't have a specific date yet but around then
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um as we say if you want to know just follow Splitstone Games and I'm sure you'll find out be really specific near
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the time right yeah that's Yeah mailing list on my website or Instagram uh yeah
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I'm I'm out there he's He's there he's there and we're about to go and demo a little something new stag yeah an early
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stack which is this by uh I mean it's a very shoddy box don't look too close yeah it's just stuck onto a mycelia box
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but you know it works it works so this is an early proto site for my new game Stag which is all about Beatles um it's
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uh it's a Yeah it's exciting it's it's always a weird journey making a new game
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cuz it's uh a lot of play testing and stuff but I I like it it's a bit of a
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step up complexity wise from my So um yeah you're about to play it we're about
38:14
to play it and we'll talk about it on our expo episode so please check that out and see what we see what we're thinking what it's all about great stuff
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thank you Jack have a great one cheers byebye
Board Game World Cup - White Castle vs Star Trek Captains Chair
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so our team's coming up next we have got uh a DVE game from 2023 which is White
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Castle jp White Castle tell us about it yeah White Castle it's a small box packs
38:35
a punch you get what nine actions that's your job that's it job done make the most out of those nine actions as you
38:41
can and you think "How the hell am I going to do this?" And you somehow managed to do it um and yeah it's it's
38:47
really good fun little dice drafting game with little cool cute bridges that you get to pick a dice from each end and
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uh yeah I really enjoy White Castle i want to play it right now let's do it well we just have to wait just All right
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I'll do it later then so that's your pink side White Castle on the blue side we have got Whiz Kids 2025 very hard to
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get game star Trek Captain's Chair captain's Chair um yeah an absolute uh
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well it's a sequel to Imperium Classics which you guys may have heard of before um the original is uh you're playing as
39:20
different empires from history uh it's really quite complicated really good fun card-based game going through different
39:27
eras and you pick up new cards and you develop them and you're going through the idea of you're going throughout the civilization through time um one of our
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favorites but they've done a mechanical sequel to it based on Star Trek so the whole idea of this one is that you are
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taking over as a different captain throughout all of the different series um the way they kind of managed to get
39:47
that in which I absolutely love the way they've managed to do it is that you're meant to be doing it as kind of a simulator you're in a simulator playing
39:53
as these different people um so the yeah you're basically you're going out to
39:59
different areas you're exploring you're taking them over militarily in some some
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uh aspects um but yeah really good fun and it's all the interesting thing about
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this one is it's 1v one so it's 1 v one whereas the previous one and I think that was a deliberate um thing by David
40:17
Tersy the main designer of this one to kind of make it a bit sleeker a bit quicker cuz the other one the only
40:22
downside to it I found anyway was it took a little bit too long between turns so it was just to fix that so yeah one
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of the what hotness of this one because it's had a bit of a problem with its release so you can find it here though
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we picked up a copy this morning so it is it is around well there's two less copies now but but there are probably
40:39
still some around you could have found it if you got there this morning but yeah one of our favorites at the
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moment yeah wait wait at least 45 minutes how you doing that would be great so pink for White Castle blue for
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Star Trek Captain's Chair oh 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
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yes SH's got the rule book blue takes it star Trek Captain
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i know I championed the other one but I'm really happy jp's favorite game is literally it is when it got knocked out
41:10
of our battle game battleground board game battleground his little face honestly it was like that's why I had it
41:17
in we We had 15 for that we needed 16 to make this work and I was like I've got to put Star Trek Captain Sher in got to give it another bite of the apple so I'm
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glad we did yes uh it's Rob i'm here at Expo and I'm
INTERVIEW 7: Word on the Expo Street with Stewart
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here with Stuart hey mate how you doing yeah good all right yeah all good so can I ask you three quick fire questions
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don't overthink them like real real quick answers okay thanks mate i appreciate it uh is this
41:42
your first time at Expo or have you been i'm pretty much every year probably for the last five or six except co awesome
41:48
and uh your overall experience yeah it's always pretty solid i mean I get sometimes I get a little fatigue today
41:54
I'm struggling a bit but generally really good i don't think you're the only one in that category i am absolutely shattered today i I don't
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think I I literally had to sit down at 2:00 just cuz I couldn't yeah I had I had a 10 15 minute i mean I mean I
42:06
cracked up what 15 16k every day just walking around go it is nuts isn't it cuz you feel like you've gone nowhere
42:12
and and you've done everything uh so from this year's expo what would be your highlight what would be the thing that was you know kind of made it special for
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you i mean I've got more gaming done with this with our group and just doing more
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games i said in the past I've just wandered around too much and I've actually played more games probably than any other year so far so it's been it's
42:31
been a more productive from that perspective awesome so a little bit more chill a little bit more more kind of sit down playing rather than just walking
42:37
around games few demos and a few just games with us picked up games started playing games learning new games so yeah
42:42
it's been good awesome it seems that sort of environment where it's easy to pick up a game and think I'm just going to sit and learn it i might not get it
42:48
perfect and and everybody is aware that you're not going to get it perfect but just sit and play and have fun yeah just
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have a go awesome man uh so on the spot final question what is your favorite game of all time favorite game of all
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time it's Tracer tracer yeah yeah that's a solid choice i think Curly and and JP
43:06
will be happy with that choice man that's awesome thank you very much mate i appreciate and we'll keep you all right mate have a good one cheers mate
Board Game World Cup - Minos: Dawn of the Bronze Age vs The Witcher: Old World
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so now we have got Board and Dice's 2025 game Minos Dawn of the Bronze Age curly
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yeah so Minos um I actually demoed this one at Gridcom most recently and it's uh fantastic game i was asked to do it and
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I I kind of started to learn it i was like "Wow this is amazing." Um the whole idea of Minos is that uh the Minos was
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kind of like the same name for King back in um yeah yeah ancient Creed um the
43:42
whole idea of the game is and what I love about it is you're doing loads of different stuff at the same time you're kind of you're debt building playing
43:47
different cards you're upgrading them through developments um but you're also doing there's a trading mechanic in
43:53
there and everything else but what the best part of the game is is is this kind of a weird dice draft at the start of it
43:58
where you've got to work out the different colors do different things these dice the numbers do another
44:04
different thing and then where you put them in order also does a different thing um so it's kind of it's a god most
44:11
of the game I think is within that initial dice draft of deciding where you're putting it um and it just makes
44:16
it so interesting because do you want the more powerful action or do you want to be able to you know get a combo
44:22
together to get a bonus elsewhere and it's yeah such an interesting game if you are I wouldn't say bored of but it's
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it's kind of a work of placement with a bit more to it if that makes sense um highly recommend it really highly
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recommend it probably my favorite game last year I would say yeah so surprised me yeah really did me too so it's going
44:41
up against CD Project Red's 2023 The Witcher Old World rob's already made his
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choice now i'll do my best mate tell us about The Witcher all right so I played The Witcher once at Robs it was So I'll
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do my best i think it's a one to five competitive um Witchard so you're all basically witches come becoming the best
44:58
Witcher by hunting and killing monsters and fighting other witches um but you do this by building your own unique um
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battle deck from cards and I remember it being very good and unique but I can't quite remember how it works the chaining
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chain you get to chain yeah that's right and you got Witcher spells or brute force basically I think that so you keep
45:16
training that um the models look really cool if you're a big fan of the Witcher in the Old World it's set before the the series so it's all about when there's a
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lot of witches um yeah I really enjoyed it really good i'd love to play it again and we just never get around to it do we
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no it's a long game it's a long game it is a long game so we've got pink for Minos and blue for the Witcher
45:38
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 though yeah pink takes it minos is Minos goes
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through hi guys it's JP here at the UK Games
INTERVIEW 8: Andrew Navaro from Earthborne Games (Hubworld: Aidlon)
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Expo on Saturday and I'm here with Andrew from Earthorn Games nice to meet you Andrew nice to meet you how you doing yeah I'm doing well thank you
45:56
how's your expo so far it's been fantastic yeah is this is this your first one you been here this is uh my
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second i was here two years ago okay yeah this is the first time we've been here as an official presence just
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ourselves nice we actually have product for sale the last time we didn't we're just hanging out giving demos fair fair
46:14
so what's going on here with Earthorn Games what's What you got on show so yeah we have a few demo tables we have
46:19
Earthborn Rangers that we're demoing here at the back and we have our new game for the game found that we just completed um Hub World Idolon that we're
46:26
also demoing here at these tables yeah so they're very different games so we know a lot about Earth or Rangers love
46:32
it it's great um so what little spiel on Hub World what's that about uh so Hub World is Yeah you said it's very
46:38
different from Rangers it's a competitive game can you play it headto-head or multiplayer um have you are you familiar with Netrunner oh yes
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okay so it's it definitely has a lot of inspiration pulled pulled from Netrunner
46:50
um but it's a very different design it's a it's a it's a symmetrical game you know like Netrunners asymmetrical
46:56
instead um but it has some similarities in that you are it's like if you took the runner in the court and you mashed
47:02
them together so you're both defending and you're delving on your on your opponent's uh on your their hand on
47:08
their deck on their discard and you're searching for agents um you play as uh characters called seekers who are like
47:14
champions of their community or just like uh they're kind of they might have
47:20
the different goals based on who they are thematically like we have some like a guy who's like a police officer he
47:25
might be going out like who knows what he's doing investigating something but we also have like people who are like
47:31
just living in like the uh like the ramshackle areas in this gigantic like
47:36
mega city or that the game takes place in um we're trying to get things done either for the community or for themselves and they need the support of
47:43
powerful individuals in the city called agents yes and what you're trying to do is you're trying to sway your opponent's
47:50
agents who are supporting them over to your side mhm the way that's represented in the game is that you are trying to go
47:56
into their hand their deck the discard to find these agents the first person to steal three agents from their opponent
48:03
wins nice i mean obviously the what draws me to this is the world building
48:08
and the I mean the artwork on the cards again is fantastic and uh yeah I just I
48:14
love the fact it's kind of got it's not true it's like cyber punk but it's got that kind of retro futuristic kind of
48:19
elements to it and it's just really really fun yeah it definitely has elements of cyber punk but also just like grand science fiction yeah exactly
48:25
and it's just just my jam so um so obviously the campaign's finished can
48:31
people get their hands on late pledges or anything like that uh not yet once Earth Rangers is done fulfilling then
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we'll launch late pledges so probably like in a couple months okay yeah yeah we'll we'll do some announcements about
48:42
when it actually is available okay brilliant so if you if you're interested in it come and check out Earthborn Games
48:47
check out all the stuff they're great and thank you very much and have a great X yeah you too thanks for having us thanks Andrew cheers
Board Game World Cup - Castles of Burgundy vs Merchants Cove
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our last final uh what's after quarterfinal like you mean before quarter before quarterfinals it's the
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heat so round of 16 yeah so the last one of these now I'm I'm really into football and Yeah yeah sure so we've got
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Aliia's 2011 game Castles of Burgundy jp take it away do I have to explain
49:13
Castles of Burgundy i audience have you heard of Castles of Burgundy yeah no how
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two sentences in JP in two sentences castles and they're in Burgundy no it it's basically a game with lots of
49:27
hexagons and uh you have roll two dice and you basically use your dices or
49:32
actions spending them to to get tiles from the main market um and then you can use those to build onto your board which
49:38
all has dice numbers on and you're trying to kind of complete territories of different types of uh tiles that
49:44
could be uh or like farmyard animals or um it could be uh particular buildings some buildings give you powers as you go
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and you can build castles and you know what it's a classic for a reason and I haven't played this game until probably
49:56
a year ago maybe a lot longer when Adrian bought his very special shiny special edition copy from Awaken Realms
50:03
which cost a million pounds and uh and I was quite impressed with it actually and thought I should have played this a lot
50:09
sooner than I have but yeah I'd encourage everyone to try Castles and Burger even the the the one you can get
50:14
for like 20 quid version and that's me saying that i've never played it so actually what am I saying so we've got
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Final Frontier Games 2021 Merchants Cove um it's an asymmetrical Euro game where
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you are a merchant with a unique shop you compete against each other to attract customers predict the demand for
50:32
goods influence which customers are in each ship uh and port and the wealthiest wins and there's really cute little kind
50:39
of ships that look a little bit like Viking long boats that you kind of you're filling with your meeples and you're moving into ports really really
50:45
good and even though it's asymmetric it's not really difficult to learn each
50:50
type of merchant because they're all kind of the same same but a variation so it's really good in my opinion so we've
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got pink for Castles of Burgundy and blue blue there for Merchants Cove vote now a Oh it's a pink wash it's a pink
51:05
wash yeah Castles of Burgundy absolutely take that so now we're in our quarterfinals we're
Board Game World Cup - The Finals
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not going to take you through the games each time we're going to do a sharp sharp fire so we've got here to slay in
51:17
the pink side versus Great Western Trail blue side pink for here to slay blue for
51:23
Great Western Trail oh blue isn't it blue Great West uh yeah
51:29
great Western Trail cows and sheep cows and sheep this is the important one now so we've got terraforming Mars and
51:37
Endeavor Deep Sea terraforming Mars for pink endeavor deep sea for blue cuz blue is in the ocean oh oh no we've got a
51:45
pink here it's pink isn't it it's pink terraforming Mars gets through again doesn't matter how hard you work okay so
51:52
we've got Primal the Awakening on your blue side star Trek Captain's Chair on your pink side live long and prosper
51:59
people pink side oh it's it's it's captain's chair isn't it captain's
52:04
chair's gone through make it so sorry I had to did you do the little
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your little jerking yeah no sorry what pardon me Becky jerking the jerk and
52:15
pull you know jerking a little pull of his and he goes engage that's a thing right engage
52:22
yeah he puts it when he sits down i say jerking pull you say tuggy tunic and I'm the one that get I mean jerk and pull
52:28
sounds a lot worse jack's a top get your minds out of the gutter people right
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last one in the quarterfinals we've got Minos which is going to be your pink side and Castles of Burgundy for your
52:41
blue side oh 1 2 3 4 5 six oh it's blue isn't it it's definitely blue castles of
52:47
burgundy bit of blue smash that Minotaur out the park
52:52
okay this makes me sad semi-finals then pink for Great Western Trail blue for
52:59
Terraforming Mars great Western Trail on pink terraforming oh great Western Trail
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i'm happy about it yes yes i'm sad because I love Mars but it did need to
53:10
be taken down a peg or two yeah it's probably true probably this one last one other semi-final captain's Chair in pink
53:19
castles of Burgundy in blue oh this is tough captain's chair pink castles of burgundy blue oh it's Castles of
53:25
Burgundy bergen he's got it bergen okay it's fair it's fair our final matchup
53:31
now to determine quite clearly the best game of all time anyway 2025 great
53:37
Western Trail for your pink Castles of Burgundy for your blue it's classic V classic oh oh so uh we're going to have
53:45
to count five six seven eight nine 10 yeah 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10s
53:52
so 10 pinks for G and Trail and Castle of Burgundy 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
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so we can absolutely confirm that Castles of Burgundy is the game of 2025
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i love that game but it makes Asia way too happy i love this every year and they tank it every year well there you
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go it's got it it's got its uh its final say so thank you everybody for voting
54:22
Adrian's favorite game in he's now chat look at him there happy smiling yeah you've won something Adrian for once oh
54:28
I'm joking so thank you for that adrian smiling you can't the screen will crack
54:35
okay and here we are with Adrian for your next segment thank you very much thanks Becky thanks Becky
54:42
i'm staying here [Music] for those that didn't know this first
54:47
bit for me was unplanned hi I'm Adrian from Who's Turns Anyway
INTERVIEW 9: Dave Beck from Paverson Games (Lutheir, Distilled and Class of '89)
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podcast and I have with me Dave from Pavson Games hello you've been busy all weekend oh crazy it's been nuts yeah and
54:59
you've got quite a few products so either on show or for sale or whatever yeah we're really ramping things up now
55:05
we're going from uh it used to be every couple years we'd have a game release and now we're doing shooting for almost
55:10
two games a year so so do you want to talk us through what you've got here yeah would love to so of course we've
55:16
got Luier we got our own conductor as well with Luier of course this is our debut
55:23
around the world for Luier um we worked extra hard to get a shipment over to the
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UK in time for UK Games Expo and our backers over here too uh it's actually going to be another month to two months
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before everyone else around the world sees this game um uh great we sold out within 3 hours of the first day of our
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deluxe copy so that was amazing um really excited for people to finally get a chance to play this game art by
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Vincent Detroit a little bit heavier but really still focused on theme forward like we do at Papers and Games yeah and
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those deluxe components are gorgeous i can understand why you sold out so quickly i was looking at them on the
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first day going they are really nice thank you and then do you want to tell us about your distilled expansion yeah so distilled very excited about
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distilled so uh of course we got our base game in distilled like you see there but then we also now have a new
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expansion called cocktails now cocktails is going to add much more on top of the
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game we know don't just have things like uh distilling spirits now you can distill two spirits around you can make
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cocktails you can make spirits for collectors we are hoping to have this be a very big box expansion it's going to
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be launching on Kickstarter in July or sorry August or September of this year uh and we hope people think about coming
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back to this just like with Distilled where we packed a lot into the box we're packing a lot into the expansion as well
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yeah absolutely and then I was lucky enough to get a demo of class of 89 yeah
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tell us a little bit about that yeah so Class of 89 is one of our newest ones we've announced uh we are going to bring
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this straight to retail as well as our community for pre-order in 2026 probably Q3 2026 uh it's it's the late8s high
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school in America uh you are in a club yearbook club you're sending workers around part of your club taking pictures
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of students in the in the school you're bringing them back to lay them out onto your yearbook but you got to keep it in
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an alphabetical order you got to make also make sure that you're assigning making sure who are the geeky kids who
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are the jock kids the drama kids the popular kids and you want to make sure you're lining them up in certain ways because there's public objectives
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telling you to do certain things so you're kind of fighting with other people to see who can get the most uh the best of class as well absolutely
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you'll be hearing more about that on our podcast cuz I'll be talking about that on our review awesome real thank you
Would You Rather - Go to as many cons with everything booked or only one but expenses paid?
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so I get to say hello as well so hello thank you very much for coming it's great to see you all here it's there's definitely more people this time which
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definitely I thought there was going to be less for some reason cuz pessimist um so it's nice to see many more people here so for the sec it's true for the
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second section we are going to revisit uh a section we used to put in the podcast quite a bit called would you rather okay oh sorry I thought I was
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doing something wrong not at all i've I've forgotten my bit of paper there we go thanks mate tradition is tradition
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that's your third piece of paper i know how do you lose anyway right so in would
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you rather we put to you a board game would you rather not the usual adult one you've probably heard of before but this
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is a nice familyfriendlyish um all right taking Mick out my bald
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spot um she's now just the top of my head we're all together in this man so
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yeah it's quarter carton of eggs at the moment isn't it so um so we will pose we
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will pose three different questions for you each one will be posed by one person and the other two will fight one of the
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two sides and then you get to vote on which is the best version of the the conundrum which side
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do you fancy that's it yeah this wasn't practiced so um we'll go with it i like the way you make think any any of what
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we do is practice none of our podcast is practiced it's true when we practice our podcast we we screw it up we record it
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it's true it's true right so would you rather So for the first one would you rather be able to go to as many cons as
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you want with guaranteed tickets and all the demos you want booked for you or would you rather only be allowed to go
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to one con but the tickets travel your stay is all paid for but you can only go
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to one for the year which would you rather so I'm going to fight for team
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pink right which is which is the many cons as possible and it's all sorted so
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the reason why I like this version better is because that's what you do it's what I do um
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is I try to collect them all all the cons all they're not Pokémon man they are we can do this no it's it's I like
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the variety variety is a spice of life right so I like to be able to kind of sample the different conventions i like
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to experience them and if you can get all the demos slots already that's just like your day is just set up right it's
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all sorted and you can get one what you want your feet hurt less you sat down a
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lot more happy days so that's why I kind of gravitate towards that that's kind of my vibe okay yeah what's the convince us
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the other way so for me cons are expensive they are time consuming um and time
1:00:16
consuming that sounds like they're bad no they're not bad but that you go you go away for 3 days but it's not it's the
1:00:22
day to prep it's the day to get there it's the day after it's for a lot of people it is an event as in you know
1:00:29
it's it's almost like on par with a holiday m so um to have it all paid for
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is a plus because they can be very expensive especially if anyone's tried to book for next year's uh uh any hotel
1:00:40
for next year they've seen the price increase um so the fact that it's all paid for would be awesome um and just to
1:00:47
experience one I mean come on how many board games do you need to see all of them you don't
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Yeah i appreciate I'm not playing to the audience i appreciate that um but but
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yeah I mean come on do you really need to go to three or four he has a point i could go to Gen Con that's like That's
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what I'm saying i'm not talking i've not thought this through have I you didn't say convention in this country no I
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could go to Origins but would it be a bit like sy oh it's Gen Con again oh got
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to get on that flight oh does anybody in here believe what's coming out of his mouth right now the first time would be
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fun yeah but that you'd get to experience the first time so you do it on like a three or four year so it' be the World Cup the second time would be
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fun the third time would you still be fun yeah the fourth fifth the sixth maybe you get a bit bored no you do Gen
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Con one year you could do the Gen okay i still want to do them all fair enough
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okay you haven't you haven't but I mean imagine today or this weekend completely
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paid for completely free and you wouldn't have to worry about going to anything else yeah but that means I
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might not come to UK Games Expo cuz I've gone to Gen Con and therefore I can't come to the expo yeah but you get to mix
1:02:01
it up and there'll be no live event at the expo i know these people would be terrified without being able to spend
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their lunchtime without us chatting random crap to them
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but that's my argument that's I think we all know the right decision here people right cool so if you think you would go
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to as many cons as possible and get your guaranteed tickets and demos please vote pink if you think you would like your
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one all expenses paid please vote blue
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i think that's blue i think people want free convention a year that's what they
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want i think it's fair i think you lost them at paid yeah I think I lost it when I could switch the convention every year
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i was like "Oh okay maybe I've not thought this through um done nice thank
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you guys if anything I've won one game this weekend i I'm happy now i'm I'm done i've completed it
INTERVIEW 10: Word on the Expo Street with Richard
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hello i'm here at Expo and I'm here with Richard hey mate how you doing yeah good thanks all good do you mind if I ask you
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a few questions yeah no problem perfect so uh what I was going to say uh is this your first time at Expo or have you been
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here before i came here about 2 years ago awesome man so it's my second time
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awesome and your overall kind of experience at Expo yeah oh it's Yeah it's been brilliant awesome i really
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enjoyed it people are friendly good uh loads of great games to be fair that's been my experience as well everyone
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everyone's really cool everyone's just kind of focused on doing their own thing and not really worrying about anything
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and it just see everybody just seems really cool man everyone's in a good mood that's it every time I've been here
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it's been a pleasurable experience i'm glad that you found that as well um so from this expo what has been your one
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highlight your one takeaway that you think that was that was awesome it's hard to pick i know that's why I asked
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it played and demoed quite a few good games we've uh played some games that are a
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bit older that I wasn't aware of so well it's I can't pick go one just go one
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random uh I played a game called Galaxy Trucker which is really good i love that
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game so yeah good fun absolutely great fun just silly nonsense not too serious
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but just just chaotic and fun awesome man uh and uh if I can put you on spot
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don't overthink this favorite game of all time
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favorite game of all time well I'm just a casual gamer so I I
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don't play that many games which one is your favorite house is on fire you get to say one game
1:04:39
which game is it uh probably a classic that we've played
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a lot in the family is just Carson carson yeah oh awesome i've never played
1:04:52
it but all the guys always talk about it so um it's quite an old game now i I play but yeah it's it's one that is I
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mean it stood the test of time for a reason right it's a good game so no man that's awesome thank you very much thank
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you greatly appreciate it your question Rob so my question is
Would You Rather - Have a board game butler or a board game teacher?
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would you rather have a board game butler who can fetch you who can fetch set up and pack away all of the games
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for you or have a board game teacher that will teach any games to you and
1:05:25
answer rule questions so you've either got a personalized setup and pack away
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person or somebody that will teach you any game yeah interesting
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so for the pink side my my argument is Butler right if you take the teach away
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from me I'm sad because I really like teaching games i like the learning uh
1:05:50
the games so when you buy buy a new game right let's say you buy at Expo you go home and it's in cellophane you get it
1:05:56
all out and it's that smell it's great you punch it all and you got the rule book and you're learning it for me
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that's that's just a great Sunday afternoon that's my Sunday afternoon so if you take that away and someone's got
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to teach me it's like that's robbing some of the enjoyment of the experience so for me the butler does the butler
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have a name or is it like an AI or something like a robot jp right so JP the the butler would literally I fancy
1:06:20
playing voidfall let's pick that cuz that's like one of the worst setups ever i fancy playing that 7:00 tonight and
1:06:26
it's there ready to rock and roll that would be epic and then when you're done I'm off to bed and the table's cleared
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for me or that for me wins you can't beat that i I do like the idea of
1:06:38
packing away games once you're done cuz that's always the bit that's a bit of a faf however can you imagine having
1:06:46
someone just teach you basically your own Paul Groen to teach you all the games you want to ever play you never
1:06:52
have to worry about reading a bad rule book ever again you can cut that entire part of the hobby out is "Oh this
1:06:58
doesn't tell tell me what I need to know or anything like that." If you've got a question they're going to answer it you might flick through your phone try and
1:07:05
find an answer on Board Game Geek or or try and figure out an FAQ or something that all of that side of gaming is gone
1:07:11
instead you just have someone that you can just ask and it'll give you the answer and you don't have to read
1:07:17
through loads of pages or oh it's my turn so you keep reading the rule book um while I take my turn and then they
1:07:22
flick through and can't find the answer so they hand it back to you when it's their turn all of those kind of things that you see in board games all of that
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is gone because you've got your own Groenbot can we call him Grroen bot we should call him Groenbot we're going to
1:07:34
call it Groen Bot don't call him that at this event okay just putting out there and don't tell him that we said that
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yeah if you do he doesn't listen to this no it's fine can't believe you lobby
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so so yeah that's it so if if you think the butler is the right choice then
1:07:52
please vote pink if you think the Groenbot teacher is the right choice please vote for blue oh well that is a
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lot closer than I thought that's actually split isn't it 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
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8 9 10 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
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8 9 10 11 Blue takes it by one that's the closest and that is the right
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decision people that is the correct decision it's true you You've got me you've got
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I'm both what are you on about it's true i learn the games and I set them up and pack them away
INTERVIEW 11: Shawn Hoult from Allies & Enemies
1:08:35
hi I'm Adrian from the Who Turners Anyway podcast and I'm here with Sean from Allies or Enemies Gaming yeah that's us brilliant and I have just
1:08:42
played a demo of Last Week of Summer do you want to tell us a bit about it yeah so Last Week of Summer is the theme is
1:08:47
it's 1986 you just finished high school you got one week left of summer before you got to go be a grown-up so you're
1:08:53
trying to have as much fun in that last week as you can and what it is is you got a bunch of modular boards with all
1:09:00
kind of little mini games so you got a VHS store that's like a manala you got an all you can eat fast food place
1:09:05
that's push your luck you've got a polyomino puzzle where you're making skate trick combos you got a dice
1:09:12
rolling arcade convenience store that you're spray painting the back of and then there's a market manipulation uh
1:09:19
record store where albums get cool but if they're too cool they're not cool anymore and all of it's tied together by
1:09:25
trying to finish goals which give you cassettes and those represent the songs of your summer and kind of like your
1:09:31
memories of summer and as you get more cassettes well whoever has the most cassettes has the best mixtape had the
1:09:37
best summer yeah so I've just played a demo of it we'll be talking about it more on our podcast um because there's some really nice bits in there that I
1:09:44
really enjoyed great when is it looking to come out when's when's the the date
1:09:49
yeah so obviously the board game world is in a little bit of flux right now but um right now we're just building up our
1:09:55
our list so once we've got enough on Kickstarter that we're feeling pretty confident and once we understand what's
1:10:01
going on with the world but the hope is that we're going to put it out this summer and we've really tried to make it so that we're as close to production as
1:10:08
possible so we really want that timeline between We orcs in the background we want that timeline between uh when we
1:10:15
launch and when we deliver to be as short as we can make it so that's it's our first it's our first Kickstarter so
1:10:20
I don't want to overpromise on that but that is really our focus yeah i mean for a demo copy it's already looking
1:10:25
fantastic so you're definitely following along with that process so thank you very much thanks so much cheers thank
1:10:31
you okay next one is me so uh would you
Would You Rather - Free limited edition deluxe copies you can carry or free retail editions that you can fit in the granny trolley
1:10:37
rather get free limited edition deluxe copies of games but then you have to carry them all for the whole expo or get
1:10:44
as many free retail version games but up to the amount you can fit in your granny trolley can we see Can we see exhibit A
1:10:50
of Granny Trolley please please will the Granny You could we go there is the
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Granny Trolley # Expo Granny Trolley
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so Rob you're first i am the pink option and uh it's really weird cuz you can see so many people carrying loads of stuff
1:11:08
so why would you just not carry more deluxe boxes right have you ever seen Have you ever bought a standard copy of
1:11:14
a game and then seen the deluxe version and a little bit your soul just leaves you no well you get the deluxe version
1:11:20
i'm not talking to you you just made my point um and and yeah that deluxe
1:11:25
especially like you don't have to own all the games i keep telling you this i don't own all the games but you could
1:11:31
easily carry three or four deluxe copies easily
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what the whole expo the whole weekend the whole expo free to be neutral what superhuman strength
1:11:43
are you conjuring up to carry like voidful traon oh I'd manage i' I'd
1:11:49
figure out a way i think I would you didn't say carry it on your back or in your arms
1:11:54
a portable hoist pulley like the trolls off of uh Lord of the Rings like you know where you just got some sort of
1:12:00
like arm off the back that where it's just swinging around so yeah you didn't say in your hands but I'd figure out a
1:12:05
way you get banned from the expo not you're not even allowed i only need to come once and I'd get enough games to
1:12:11
see me through for the next three years for me it's about it's not about the deluxe version but if it's free then
1:12:19
yeah it's all about the deluxe versions but I can get so granny trolley here to
1:12:24
the to the side so in that I could go to Deve Stand and get all of their like
1:12:30
White Castle Red Cathedral all of those i that would maybe take the bottom third Bamboo and all those kind of mid
1:12:36
smallbox games they don't do deluxe then I could do Buttonshy and I could literally get every single Buttonshy
1:12:43
games cuz it's a little wallet and do that and then I could go to Sinister Fish Games and get all of their longbox
1:12:48
games and still fit that in there and then I reckon I've probably still got space to go and raid like All Plays mini
1:12:55
games that they do those little box games and I reckon I could probably take most of one of everything off of All
1:13:00
Play as well and Oink i nearly forgot about Oink you can get all of them and
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do that all in there and that's like my entire year's worth of gaming sorted or you could go and get The Elder Scrolls
1:13:12
Deluxe Edition and just that'll be mine next year anyway that's one game yeah that's all you need i can't cope with
1:13:18
one game no no i could absolutely I reckon I could get probably a hundred
1:13:24
games in there if I include things like Buttonshy and Oink and all that kind of stuff you'd sell 99 of them because you
1:13:30
don't have enough time no I'd play it once and then sell it yeah so I'd make all my money back as well that I haven't
1:13:37
spent but I would then make probably enough to then buy the hotel for the next year wow off it back fair enough i
1:13:44
I'm all about deluxe i think your conundrum here is really do you just play one or two games for an entire year or do you want to play a different game
1:13:50
every sort of three days basically deluxe versions with such shiny parts and it's also about the carrying don't
1:13:56
forget you got to carry for the whole expo so if you're here for three days you've got to carry that stuff in all
1:14:02
fairness I bought three games and put them in the box so yeah I know what you're saying i'm sure a lot box is not allowed but deluxe
1:14:10
you're going to get away with a few more than we would yeah
1:14:15
you can have a shed built on top just shelving unit around so you slot them
1:14:20
all in that' be amazing deluxe it up baby deluxe
1:14:25
we know where your voting is yeah deluxe it's got to be deluxe 100% okay so uh
1:14:30
pink if you want all the deluxe uh things uh blue if you want the granny trolley full of Buttonshy games and
1:14:36
anything else get a granny trolley oh that is a good point is that going to sway the vote right i
1:14:44
don't I don't think it matters pink is already like Granny Granny Trolley is not supplied granny trolley supplied
1:14:50
deluxe Games wins guys there we go thank you two for two two for two i'm good with that is that all of our would you
Ask Us Anything
1:14:57
rather that's all of our would you rather so we actually finished a little bit earlier than what we planned so we've actually got what we got oh we got
1:15:02
about 10 minutes we say so why don't we open it up for some Ask us anything where we fill out this goes to these
1:15:08
guys as well not just this is dangerous because this isn't planned yeah and we're opening it up to you guys to ask
1:15:13
us questions about anything you absolutely want to so any questions that you guys have got for us we'll ask
1:15:18
anything if you want to ask the guys that are not on they can jump on the mic and do it so yeah let's just open up for a free-for-all not a shoe go on Stuart
1:15:26
not Stuart's at the back so his question was "What is our position on uh Kickstarters that include expansions
1:15:33
from day one?" H Well I've got an opinion on this i have
1:15:39
an opinion on everything so um potentially fine because quite often they're welldesigned expansions i've
1:15:46
seen some that are not welldesigned but normally there's a good amount of extra stuff in there it's when
1:15:54
they've had a game with like four expansions or five expansions in there and then before the f first edition's
1:16:01
even released they're doing a second edition or a standalone game or something that's when I tend to struggle
1:16:07
with it but I don't mind too much expansions like one or two small
1:16:13
expansions with the first game just Yeah because and I had this with Galactic Cruise where I've kept the I've got the
1:16:20
expansions that came out with Galactic Cruise at the start and I kept them separate because I wanted to experience the core game without the expansions but
1:16:26
knowing that very quickly I'd probably add the expansions in um and because it comes in a big box where all the
1:16:31
expansions fit in I knew if I immediately popped everything out and put it in the big box I'd lose track of what was a base game what was an
1:16:37
expansion so it's fine just not when it's overdone and not when there's a second edition like before the first
1:16:43
editions even got into people's hands and stuff like that that's when I struggle yeah i think if you'd asked me like three or four years ago I' be like
1:16:49
"Yeah great no problem." Um but I think the reality is my brain goes I want it
1:16:54
all like most people's on Kickstarters right is just they're designed to to be a bit like FOMO and collect everything
1:17:00
you can possibly collect so so you're then looking at the price of this thing that's now equally
1:17:07
ask yourself is it really worth it um so I tend to now be more choosy over
1:17:12
Kickstarters generally um regardless of whether they have a million expansions or not I tend to I've definitely slowed
1:17:19
down and I still blame COVID for for my kick kick starter surge but yeah I don't
1:17:25
have a problem with it it just depends you got some publishers that will um naturally build their games in a modular
1:17:32
DLC kind of fashion where I don't like because when you buy the base game
1:17:37
you're getting 30% of the game and then you have to buy the other bits to get the game that I don't like i think the
1:17:44
game the base game should always be robust enough and standalone enough to be good um without needing an expansion
1:17:51
it should always be optional and a choice um so when they do that not a big fan not naming any publishers but you
1:17:56
probably could think of a few that that do it um so yeah that's just generally my vibes so yeah it was Marvel United
1:18:02
that I'm just thinking about as you're talking then because Marvel United is a 1520 game but if you kickstarted it it
1:18:08
was 90 because you got the stretch goal included it's not really a stretch goal or like a free thing at that point
1:18:14
they've just made you say "Well if you're going to kickstart this you need to buy it with a load of extra content ahead of time when it hits retail it'll
1:18:20
be 15 20 quid but you'll be missing like 90% of the content." That that irked me a bit but yeah any questions anyone go
1:18:29
on oh Jimmy games that we're most looking forward to seeing this weekend oh god um trying to think of what's on
1:18:37
my list uh to to kind of see you know what i at the press event last night I'm
1:18:43
quite intrigued by Terraria and I never thought I would be but I
1:18:48
looked at it i thought this looks quite cool looks kind of different and I've never never played the the video game so
1:18:54
I'm quite keen to check that out whether that kind of exceeds or or meets expectations there um the usual staples
1:19:01
for me that I'll probably visit are um Chip Theory i don't know why I visit Chip Theory i own everything pretty much of it uh but I like to go and visit
1:19:09
those guys uh mainly because they got mugs there haven't they yeah he saw mugs and he's like I want one cuz the one
1:19:16
it's the one bit of too many bones that he doesn't have that's true and coasters and just Yeah any any old nonsense but
1:19:22
Mine Clash usual stuff but I don't know does anyone know has anyone been to Mine Clash yet are they uh Look have they got
1:19:28
the new Tracer so you can see the Arcane Arts expansion
1:19:33
yeah all right might check that out but yeah I I don't know anyone else um Pavson Games that's made Luia and got
1:19:40
Luther out this year has a class of I want to say it's class of 87 or 89 um
1:19:47
and that looked pretty good i like the art style it's a Tableau builder worker
1:19:53
placement which are just words that make me excited if I'm honest so um wow so
1:19:58
wow so um I like that and then um the new Sniper Elite expansion um has me
1:20:05
interested as well really enjoyed that game and just want to play more of it so the fact that they've added more content
1:20:11
and a way to make it slightly more um if you if you're kind of done with the base game there's now bits you can add in to
1:20:18
kind of sort of respspice it up if you like so quite like that nice for me Fate
1:20:23
the Fellowship over here yeah it was your beline wasn't it you said "Right got to get there at 9:00 gates open fate
1:20:30
of the Fellowship which is it's just pandemic though isn't it no it's a lot more is it about you Rob all the stuff
1:20:36
we saw last night Gwent looked really cool uh the artwork of the cards it looked really true to the video game it
1:20:42
looked like a really really interesting take on it and apparently the the best mode of playing is 2v2
1:20:50
which you don't hear very often in a in a card battle um but apparently it's it's awesome at
1:20:57
2v2 so that that looked quite interesting for me basically anything with big minis i keep walking around i
1:21:03
keep seeing tables with giant minis on and keep getting forced to leave by Becky she's like "Just keep walking Rob
1:21:09
just keep walking." It's not minis it's dungeon crawlers dungeon crawlers i love them um uh yeah there's Kinfire Delve i
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think I saw a few a few videos on that which seem quite cool so um so yeah go
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and check those out uh but for me it's just walking around and seeing everything i'm not into the hobby as
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much as as much as some of the other guys so how many games have you got already a few now more than I have i
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have not um today I mean Oh yeah today I have
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i've got more games today than I have for the past two exposed um but no I I
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just like walking around kind of seeing everyone seeing seeing all you know all the different types of games there are
1:21:51
because there shouldn't be that many do you know what I mean do you have a look around just think how many games is there like there too many so um so yeah
1:21:59
I'm quite amazed by it and just walking around and kind of soaking it all in really that's what I enjoy and this has now become like my lad's holiday we
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don't lads lads lads yeah this this has now become It's changed isn't it
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yeah and I would say it's cheaper but it's not which is kind of the worrying part so yeah just being away with the
1:22:19
guys and kind of getting away from the table and hanging out with people and meeting uh meeting everyone uh is is
1:22:25
really cool and I really like it so So yeah that that's what I'm looking forward to i was going to say you traded Magalof for Monopoly but it's probably
1:22:32
shouldn't say that either so no both of those M's bring back horrible memories so um I think so I think as well we've
1:22:39
played quite a lot of Galactic Cruise and Apex Legends which if you haven't kickstarted those those are now kind of
1:22:44
in retail and here but we've played a lot of those two games recently so we're fortunate to have a few copies in the
1:22:50
group but if you haven't had those go and have a look at those yeah Apex Legends is a surprise for me i'm not a
1:22:56
big skirmishy kind of fighty shooty game person really and oh what you know what
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I mean uh and yeah the way it plays is so smooth and it flows really well and
1:23:09
it's just the the kind of card shooting mechanic in it is is really well done so yeah I'd encourage you to give it a go
1:23:15
if you're vaguely interested in like PvP shooty games anyway and even if you're not even if you're not just try it cuz I
1:23:22
think you might be surprised it's really good and Glass Cannon do typically do some really good adaptations of of video
1:23:28
game IPs they they're really good at it um I still don't know how the hell they do it but they they seem to give you the
1:23:33
feel of it and that's always good so yeah here we go maybe one time for one more quick one if it's quick fire if we
1:23:42
got any if not yeah what's your favorite game mechanic go g game mechanic i think
1:23:48
top of my head dice drafting is just something that comes to my mind so yeah dice drafting what about you worker
1:23:55
placement or tableau building i like both of those uh much to Chris P's hatred I think as he doesn't like worker
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placement but yeah they've been around for a long time i love Lost Ruins and that's true
1:24:08
um I've lost my train of thought sorry they've been both of them have been around for ages and people are now kind
1:24:13
of doing exciting things with them again i feel like there was they were really exciting when they turned up then there's a bit of a sort of a lull and
1:24:19
now people are looking at ways to revisit those so yeah for me it's like the mini deck building so not a full
1:24:25
deck building game but like what you get in um in uh Lost Ruins um you know like
1:24:31
the kind of it's part of the game rather than the whole game i I like that mini uh but also like the deck building of
1:24:38
Clank where it's not quite so minmax depend like you know you you could kind
1:24:43
of I like the look of that i'll take that and it'll do something cool rather than this having this card will hinder
1:24:48
my entire journey um so yeah that and and like uh the deck building of Arkham
1:24:54
Horror where you've got like 40 cards and you need a card and it's at the bottom of your deck whereas the the the
1:24:59
kind of mini deck building of certain games you tend to cycle through them a lot quicker so you see the cards that you want yeah I find that element quite
1:25:06
cool so yeah for me it's the mini deck building before we go guys I just wanted to let you know that between October
1:25:12
17th and 19th this year we're going to be running the um I should speak to this
1:25:18
October 17th through 19th uh we're going to be running the second u Devon board game weekend where we're going to be
1:25:24
sponsoring it running it looking after things um and that's going to be down in Edgesford in Devon at the Fox and Hounds
1:25:29
Hotel lovely place it's all about well for me it's about the experience there it's just nice and chilled big rooms and
1:25:36
really good three course meal and things like that intimate con it's like an intimate convention isn't it it's only a
1:25:42
maximum of sort of 70 people in there and we've actually reduced the numbers this year as well just to be able to fit
1:25:47
a little bit more room in there so if you did go to previous ones you can find a little bit more room in this one but
1:25:52
what I wanted to say was as well we've just picked up dun dun dun a little giveaway at the event as well so we've
1:25:58
actually got a copy of this one well Becky does but what we've done is we picked this one up and we're going to do a kind of a play to win kind of thing so
1:26:04
if you do come along to the event you got the chance of winning this one just by playing it doesn't need to be the high score or anything like that then
1:26:10
please come along so for our listeners yeah for our listeners that's deep regrets cuz they can't see it yeah deep
1:26:17
regrets indeed and if you want to find out more about Deep Regrets we've got an episode on it so we recorded an episode with Judson as well so um talking about
1:26:24
how his mind works with all of the Cthulhu stuff cthulhui stuff yeah that was fun good stuff thanks Curly thank
1:26:30
you all right I think we're there i'm doing the outro you're doing outro one take outro i'm really good at these right so I think we got up to 12
TURN 3 - The Final Turn
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everyone look at him intently so thank you very much everyone for coming along to this live show or if you
1:26:44
are listening on your podcast player of choice thank you very much for listening as always um it's great to see so many
1:26:51
people here and kind of getting to see our listener base as well it's just it's really humbling i think as you said at
1:26:56
the start totally unexpected when we sort of said should we do some podcast episodes so
1:27:03
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1:27:10
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1:27:22
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1:27:28
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1:27:39
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1:27:46
scripted and wonderful they are but hope you enjoy the rest of the convention and uh till next time whose turn is it
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anyway it's theirs it's theirs it is theirs thank you very much guys thank you
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