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Episode 71: The Great British Board Game Bake Off

Loaded Dice Gaming Group Episode 71

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Think of the english countryside, think of a really large garden with a massive white tent, yes you've guessed it it's time for the ultimate board game bakers to join together for the weirdest cross-over of tabletop and bake off in our version of "The Great British Board Game Bake Off".

FIRST PLAYER: Tambo
OTHER PLAYERS: JP, Davey & Becky

In this episode you'll learn:
- about Davey's experience with manipulating markets and engine building in The Game Builders latest Suna Valo, set in the Plant Nubo universe.
- that games from 1995 are still really good with El Grande by Hans im Glück
- Becky's take on Lord of the Rings: Duel for Middle-Earth by Repos Production
- that the only thing tiny in Tiny Epic Game of Thrones is the box by Gamelyn Games

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EPISODE CHAPTERS

0:00 - TURN 1 - Player Count

3:48 - TURN 2 - Let's Talk About Hex

3:57 - Becky - LOTR: Duel for Middle-Earth

7:18 - Davey - Suna Valo

12:19 - Tambo - Tiny Epic Game of Thrones

19:15 - JP - El Grande

25:59 - TURN 3 - Main Event: The Great British Board Game Bake Off

27:57 - Round 1

34:06 - Round 2

40:55 - Round 3

45:53 - Round 4

49:55 - Round 5

54:54 - The Show Stopper

1:05:25 - Who is the star baker?

1:06:13 - TURN 4 - Receive, Sleeve or Leave

1:11:27 - TURN 5 - Penultimate Turn: What's Coming Up

1:19:22 - TURN 6 - The Final Turn

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TURN 1 - Player Count
0:00
[Music]
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welcome to Hon as anyway a podcast all about our gaming group and our board game Shenanigans I'm Tambo your current
0:24
first player and I'm joined by contestants JP hello Becky hi and
0:30
no my name's Mary Barry for this episode we'll see and we're here all to play The Great British board game Bake
0:37
Off yay Soggy Bottom yeah yeah or n Fielding be n Fielding or Mary Berry
0:43
whoever you want we don't like soggy bottoms what about Matt Lucas Matt Lucas it could be M Lucas yeah yeah if you want I have a CL with berry she came to
0:50
a funeral at my place oh really really did she like your cakes she did well
0:55
well who knows it was a funeral so we don't actually go do you like my cakes I think you allowed Mary Berry you got to
1:02
ask her yeah not the right time well I think it is cuz it's Mary Berry right like and it's what I want to say is
1:08
thank you for uh putting up this big gazebo for us today big white gazebo and
1:13
we're outdoors in the summer you made the bunting can you see yes I can somewhere yeah uh the f is March but
1:21
it's fine it's summer it's UK so it's absolutely trenching it down absolutely can't you tambo's eyes are really like
1:28
blue now as well just like PS so we got to get a handshake today all right these
1:33
are all B offences you know what I don't watch it a bit of a I've got a bit of a thing
1:39
for Paul Hollywood yeah yeah there you go it's not a pirate though yeah he'd make a nice breakfast in the morning
1:44
though wouldn't he he would yeah yeah yeah get lost in those milky little twinkle in his eye yeah yeah really we
1:51
are do it on pancake Tuesday oh yes we are yeah it is strove Tuesday yeah I had
1:57
pancakes today I was looking on my pancakes when we got into JP's house we didn't get any but I was looking forward to it yeah yeah oh I already had them oh
2:03
been and done well actually my daughter made them oh um so she does this thing for Duke of Edinburgh uh in the UK it's
2:09
this kind of thing that school kids do and go camping and learn skills and things so she's doing a weekly cook and
2:16
she cooks a meal for us with a friend every week great she washes up and everything nice so I don't have to do a
2:22
meal once a week life skills life skills yeah do you guys think it's sad when you're driving and hear on the radio
2:28
they give you a warning to make sure you make pancakes properly and if your pan catches fire everyone's got to be very careful on Pancake Day I mean you should
2:35
be careful every day that's what I'm saying but a warning about making pancakes on the radio I mean there a bit
2:41
whacking some bacon in a frying pan you know who cares if it's on fire don't walk around a bit well
2:47
yeah did they really say that yeah on the radio it's like a fire warning for the you
2:52
know for the people making pancakes that's hot radio yeah there you go you just need a thick bottom pan
3:00
heat up a good amount get your pancakes in lovely lovely lovely give it a little
3:05
flip don't over complicate there we go no warnings I trust you all you can all
3:10
make your own pancakes I believe in you it's really easy I've not had pancakes for a long time I me nether I think I've
3:16
made pancakes once in my whole life that's pretty bad isn't it it's quite sad B yeah that is I had to pop to the
3:22
shop especially to get eggs today to make we I don't keep eggs in my house cuz I don't like them you don't or they
3:30
just spit them out I don't like the taste I think they're
3:35
excellent shut up yeah anyway we probably should get off this intro yeah
3:41
and straight into the episode let let's it's on topic right it's true it's true yeah yeah let's talk about
TURN 2 - Let's Talk About Hex
3:56
hex so Becky what have you been playing recently so I played my first game of
Becky - LOTR: Duel for Middle-Earth
4:01
Lord of the Rings Jewel for Middle Earth and I absolutely loved it what a great game um we played I think I was the bad
4:11
e and curly was the goodies why can't I remember what that's called oh my God my husband is the biggest Lord of the Rings
4:17
fan he's going to kill me the three peoples versus The Shadow yeah them I
4:23
was the baddies yeah and we and we drew yeah um there was no winners there was a
4:29
same amount of uh people on the map we had everything with Even Stevens but I
4:35
really enjoyed it and I've been trying to get another game of it but curly was very poorly the weekend yeah bless him
4:41
so we didn't get a chance to play so he turned you down playing a game he he turned down almost life bless him he was
4:49
not he was not a Wellman he had a very very high temperature and he was very
4:54
popular BL yeah if you're too tired to play Lord of the Rings games with wife
5:00
and you know that the end is near well you know you know he B don't you but it was really good I really liked the um
5:06
sort of improvements they'd made on the regular Seven Wonders Jewel I
5:12
really liked how they still kind of kept like the sciences that are green but they're not Sciences but I think it's better than the Sciences in seven wers
5:18
duel yeah it's 10 times better so much more precise yeah it's just you haven't got to sit there and do calculus yeah
5:25
you don't have to math everything out all the time and I got a really really good bonus for that I got like the the
5:30
little token that I got to turn over was one of anything that was amazing right
5:36
at the start what a great little little addition to the game brilliant loved it
5:42
strongly recommend it plays in about what half an hour mhm yeah yeah very very easy to learn I don't really like
5:49
the symbols they used that silly little face what's that I don't know it looks
5:55
kind of half like a little Golem face half like a I don't know what it's meant to represent is this C's face or no no
6:02
the symbols on the cards you got like a a heart and a is it a like
6:07
a hand or fist or something and you got like a stop it hand over fist yeah so you got your
6:16
symbols on the cards they're like is it like a heart and there's like obviously a coin picture and there's one that's like a a silly little half Dark Half
6:24
Light face oh it's like a little walk thing right yeah I don't like it you like didn't like that at all really put
6:30
me off oh for the that one of the icons one of the symb the resource yeah I
6:37
don't like that one you don't like that no but I liked the game wasn't a massive fan of the artwork no which for me
6:43
normally that's a real big deal but I'm with you on that yeah the game is good I mean the artwork is fine don't get me
6:49
wrong it's not terrible it just isn't to my style um it reminds me more of the the Lord of the Rings cartoon do you
6:55
remember that yes it's that kind of um pastel color
7:00
and it's got that washed out look reminds car good artwork I just don't I
7:06
don't care for I don't care for that style and normally that would really put me off a game as we all know Aesthetics
7:11
is a big deal for me but the game is really is good enough two players coming out recently yeah good ones okay Davey
Davey - Suna Valo
7:19
what you been up to uh so I could talk about sunav valo me and JP did play a
7:24
two- player of that what was that called sunavo sunavo m that was that was good
7:31
um but you've probably spoke about that before not since Essen not since Essen okay so we played sunav valo um it's
7:37
kind of like a a market another two player uh kind of like a market engine
7:44
builder um where you basically you'll have cards out in front of you which
7:49
will have your resources on that you have to allocate as you put them down and they have basically says like a
7:55
number you have to allocate that many resources doesn't matter what type that many resources on on to this um and
8:01
that's kind of you paying for it for later so you can always take it one of those cards and you'll be able to use it
8:08
or you have to pay for card other cards to be played or you can actually take the other people's but those re you have
8:14
to pay the resources that they've put there to them so there's kind of this
8:19
meta game of oh JP might want this I'm going to put these resources on because
8:25
I need these resources he wants his card we didn't play it like that cuz we were learning the game but when you're
8:31
learning the game we kind of it was a little bit more solitar esque than yeah
8:36
it probably should be but the potential is there once you get used to the game once you learn it um you build points
8:43
you have this little upgrade engine so you've got like boats that you you can put out um which are like little
8:49
objectives on the front which you can put resources on you've got contracts to fulfill but you need a certain amount of
8:55
bots to have to go and fulfill them it it's set in the same world as planter new Uber um so it's kind of got that
9:01
whole uh contract F fulfilling via Bots and like this plantes world plant
9:09
steampunk like a solar Punk solar Punk yeah um and then by doing certain
9:15
contracts and stuff you'll get uh I to put barrels out or get stuff or upgrade
9:22
certain bits of your board which will give you certain benefits but yeah it's a real Snappy two
9:28
player I think the more the you play it the better it will get um which is always a nice thing because I said if
9:34
you need a certain resource you can probably see a card that the other player would want which is only going to
9:40
come with time with playing the game cuz you'll be obviously be able to spot that once you know the game a bit better but
9:47
um yeah really good fun yeah I enjoyed it a lot um this is the kind of game we played at s and me and Adrian we did we
9:55
got a demo of it and thought wow this is actually so different anything I've kind of played it has a lot of similarities
10:02
but just the feel of it they've had it is a 1 V one jeel game and you have that
10:07
market manipulation in place which I just really enjoyed um and just who doesn't enjoy activating a column full
10:13
of cards and getting a load of stuff it's just yes ding ding ding ding ding you got all that kind of stuff so yeah
10:19
no I need to play it some more I think you you and curly would enjoy it be sounds like a combo game from what
10:25
you've just said that Curly would love I think you kind of build up and you engine to to kind of do what you want
10:31
but like I think all good games is that you can't do everything so you have to make choices how on the way and
10:38
depending on which Avenues you want to go down and there is a finite timer to the game so it's going to kind of run
10:43
out and and you go there we go that's it um but yeah it's I think you're right Davey I think you need a few plays to
10:52
understand how to set your own market up properly to entice or to block um the
10:59
other player um and and it's an art form because you need to set them up with the
11:04
right resources um for the ones you need so you're looking at a contract over there going I need I don't know like two
11:11
two flowers and two eggs and you might have a card that says actually I'll put a flower on an egg so that I'll get
11:18
double bubble back and then I can fulfill the contract next go but you know you can't guarantee what the other
11:23
players doing so so there is a bit of that going on but yeah really enjoy it it's good game JP Steam me twice I think
11:30
did he he's on a roll on a roll on a roll yeah but yeah it was good good that
11:36
sounds good I mean I I don't like interfering other people's play I find you got cont on their game as well but if it's only two player it's only one
11:42
person to look at isn't it so that sounds quite yeah yeah that's it but you don't um yeah cuz it's not like there's
11:49
any negative interaction with the other player either not really cu the other person's always getting something it's kind of a positive interaction in the
11:56
fact that well you can have this stuff you can buy it and but you're still trying to do what you're trying to do
12:01
it's not like oh I screw you even if I get the contract before you you can still get it get svps see so you don't
12:08
completely block everyone go oh that was a waste so there's none of that which is quite nice you can just still do what
12:13
you need to do but it'll be of a lesser reward if you're late to the party so yeah it's good very nice cool yeah
Tambo - Tiny Epic Game of Thrones
12:20
sounds good um I'll go next so recently I have played with curly and Adrian a tiny epic Game of Thrones
12:30
we wi David did play it but we played it like midnight and it was drag we stopped
12:36
halfway I was I was winning so badly they both G gave up
12:42
wasn't no um so anyway Let's uh let's get into it so t g of Thrones is an area controlled game like you should have
12:47
think it would be and it's a bit of combat e fighting each other for land basically and yeah not really
12:54
backstabbing I suppose but interfering with other people's play and a bit of fun so quickly done so I'll give a quick
13:00
rundown so what you do you have five dice so play the first play overall five dice and on these dice they have all the actions that you can do I won't go for
13:05
all of them cuz it'll take a while but you can like do sale March um recruit all that sort of stuff and then when you
13:11
roll a dice um the last player picks if it's three players is quite a good little moment if it was a three player
13:17
the last player picks the dice to put at the bottom of the the track where we do the actions and everybody will perform that action at the end and then he picks
13:24
his dice first and then the um then the second player will pick his dice Dice and then the two dice will come back to
13:30
the first player and then he has those two options and then always one dice will move on to the other person so you'll always get the option of having
13:36
two action two different well depending what's on the dice but to be able to do those actions and each house has a an
13:43
ability which will make you can turn the dice to a certain face or it may let you roll the dice something like that so
13:49
depending on which house you have let you do that and then on your turn you put your dice on the mat where on the map there'll be all the actions that you
13:55
can run the dice on them on there and you put a dice next to the action so on your fre on your go you're going to do
14:01
two actions you're going to do the one on the mat which is one of the actions and you do the one on the dice and when you do the one on the dice once you've
14:06
done everybody gets to follow the dice action only so every other player gets to follow that if they want to um so
14:13
that's basically on it's so there a bit of luck chance on your rolling which makes a bit fun um you got a deck of
14:19
hand deck or four cards I believe um which you're all like pretty kind of
14:26
Dicky basically you I expect it to be yeah and they have call abilities like
14:31
events that you can play off off of one of the dice and so you can play an event or they got combat strength on them um
14:37
or you have to recruit allies cuz every time you do the setup there's always four non-player houses randomly selected
14:45
and these are always available for people to make us allies and it's very important to get your allies to get dominance on the board mhm um it's not a
14:51
very high VP scoring game I mean it's about 30 points I think you can score Max so and it was when we played it it
14:57
was really close we were all just neck and neck all the way through it I think Adrian had the throne most of the time I
15:02
mean having a throne is good I mean it's like acts like a wild Power token towards your allies so basically if you
15:09
have the throne you've got one extra power token on all your allies that you've got other tokens in your Tableau
15:15
um so yeah it's it's got a good pushpull mechanic with those the way the vassels
15:20
work where you have to have a certain amount of like house people out and then at the end it checks who's got the most
15:26
at the end of that round yeah and then they then if you've got over a certain amount they go back so it resets and
15:32
then the next round people are fighting over those vassals again so suddenly you you've got a vassel in a certain area
15:37
and you think you've controlled it someone could take it and then they they now control that area control those castles which score VPS for basically at
15:45
the end of the phase Dave's right you do check allies so if you have say you got three power tokens and two of another
15:51
fastel at the end what you've um claimed all allies whoever's got the most power gets those allies you go down to two so
15:58
they break you down to two power which yeah makes it fun when and and to get
16:03
the throne you need to claim three castles so if you have the throne so go to King ladin you need three castles at
16:09
least otherwise you can only walk through it you can't go in there and take the throne you need to claim three castles so once you got the three
16:14
castles you go in but if someone attacks you surr on the mouth with the castle was and they take that castle off you you lose the throne straight away so you
16:20
don't always have to fight for King's land and you can just stick him on some other claim more castles so it's always
16:26
good fun there's a catchup mechanic as well you can get a combat token so if you're behind you after every three
16:32
rounds you score points you get this little Vengeance token which means every time you even initiate a combat you're going to get a VP yeah and then so if
16:39
you f get a combat and then lose a combat you get two VPS straight away so it's a bit of nice catch up that yeah I
16:45
quite like how um if you're is it if you're defending you have to pay for your your your cards that you play so
16:52
the're multi-use cards which is really good so the cards have got an ability on them the cards have then got a strength
16:57
um but then they've also got got cost and the cost if you're attacking so it kind of promotes you to go out and
17:03
attack more it's free if you attack you don't pay it's free you don't pay but if you defend you got pay the cost you can play play these higher cost cards out
17:09
also if you see no one's got any money I'm attacking you cuz you can't play a card yeah you're defenseless yeah yeah
17:15
so it works really well it's kind of like a real streamline version of the
17:20
the big ball game right yeah um really strein really streamlined and the cards actually feel good compared to the cards
17:28
in uh why you not like them oh
17:33
well listen back two years ago for many episodes ago these rants over my my own
17:39
wo yeah I was going to ask the immortal question on how does it compare to the
17:46
the Big Boy The Big Brother the old brother it's hard to compare it cuz the tiny air ping is what it says it's a
17:52
smaller version of it yeah so cut down scaled down if you know how to play it I Reon you can play it within an hour and
17:57
a half okay yeah yeah you can't do with base base you can't do with uh Big Brother game of
18:04
friends it's a whole day in event isn't it well you say that curle played it and you didn't you played hours yeah went to
18:12
London with a friend and came back and assumed they'd all still be there and everything had finished I couldn't believe it I couldn't believe it either
18:18
it's hard to compare it really I think they but then if someone wins quickly the game ends right with Game of Thrones so it can drag out depending on what's
18:25
going on yeah yeah um I like both games just as well as each other so it's you
18:32
know have to give it a go yeah yeah it's good fun I really enjoyed it for what I played of it the small little snippet I
18:39
mean I learned from when you played cuz when you played it you literally went straight on allies straight away and you got really powerful quickly and no one
18:44
contested you so as soon as curly got an ally and then ask I literally attacked him straight away yeah attacked his allly straight away just to keep it you
18:51
learn you pay it more you learn how to play it's just good those allies would seem really strong because you one
18:57
they've got a castle in their area two you're getting a card and three you're getting a load of units so it's like
19:02
it's a no-brainer and that's how it's won right Wars one on your allies exactly and you get VPS for allies as
19:08
well yeah when you do your scoring if you got you get VP for every Ally you've got so it's good yeah really good so I
19:14
enjoy that nice nice that's good jpizle yeah I'm going to go back to full ball
JP - El Grande
19:19
gaming um which was pretty much a month ago maybe just over a month ago now and
19:26
uh it was on a Saturday and we were playing a lot of games with Adam Richards from punchboard um Good Old
19:31
Adam yeah good old Adam hi Adam if you're listening and he said he's he said all weekend I'd really like to get
19:38
a game of El Grande in uh with you in the gang and I was like sure never
19:43
played it I've heard of it never played it didn't really know what it was I've just heard of this Al Grande game that
19:49
it's really old it's 1995 this game came out wow so he's you know it's getting on a bit and 30 years old 30 years old but
19:57
he's uh got the new PR ing of it so he Wheels it out and I went oh god there a
20:02
dudes on the map game I didn't realize there's a dudes on the map game but I thought you know what I promised to play
20:08
it so I'll give it a go and I loved it and I don't like dudes on a map game not
20:14
really I I think I do and then I tend to just get a bit bored with them yeah cuz what's that one you got the the gaic one
20:21
that I really enjoyed inish you hat that was good I liked that yeah I kind of just I don't know just fall out of love
20:27
with them as much as I fall in love with them but yeah Al Grande was was really
20:32
fun because it's it's straightforward and simple in its rule set and what you need to do and there's so much dickery
20:39
on the table and actually with the right group is a good bit of banter so kind of how it works you've got a map of Spain
20:45
and um you'll kind of have an area um is it a big map per chance a big map yeah
20:51
yeah yeah would you say it's Grande it's a bit bit big big oh dear the jokes guys
20:56
oh my God that's what it is that's l in Spanish is the the big the big yeah it's
21:02
a tough tent um but you have uh you'll have your Al Grande which is a big
21:08
worker dude um I think he's on a horse from memory that's right and you got these meols uh on the region and what
21:16
you do you have a deck of cards and it has uh I think it's 0 to 13 or something
21:21
like that and each round you play one of your cards secretly you reveal and that's your kind of initiative and
21:28
whoever has played the the lowest number will get to go first next time um and it
21:34
basically goes in order of highest to lowest once you play that card it's unlikely you're going to get that back so if you play your high card early
21:41
they're gone for the rest of the game so it's kind of like what did he did he play a 13 yeah he's played all his high
21:46
cards I think I'm I can probably play a seven and I'll be okay so he's got that in it which I quite like M and then
21:51
there's a row a cards I think equal to the player count um that when you're on your turn you can um pick the card and
21:59
do the thing on it and that could be put more dudes out from your personal Supply
22:05
or it could be that you recruit from your base Supply into your little um like distribution Zone they got proper
22:11
names I can't remember it's been a while and uh and yeah or put them on a map or move meeples around the map or or move
22:17
the king move the king yeah there's a big wooden chunky King uh gets in the way which gets in the way cuz whatever
22:24
region the king is in you can't move things in you can't move things out you can't do do anything it kind of locks a
22:29
region together um the other thing is there is a region called the Castillo which is a big cardboard Tower which
22:35
acts like a dice tower and you end up chucking all the your mles in there so it kind of becomes a bit like how many
22:40
have Miner in there and how many did Tambo put in and and there obviously the area control um so that's quite fun cuz
22:48
you just chucking them in this little Dice Tower thing I also remembered you can only you can only deploy around the king as well there jent areas that's it
22:55
yes so the king also determines where you can deploy your it has to be the adjacent are around the king so each
23:01
region has a scoring um of like first second third and there are ways to add
23:08
new scoring tiles to supersede the the ones that on the map as well so you can like tambo's like hauled up getting 10
23:14
points if he's first and I'll just put the really [ __ ] scoring marker over it he's like great thanks for that um so
23:21
you can kind of do all that knobbery and uh yeah I it was just so
23:26
simple and it was so for me it was a lot of fun I think Tambo probably hated every minute of this
23:32
game he's like [ __ ] [ __ ] hate this game umly it was like that but it was
23:38
just I don't know I just really appreciate it it's just simple rule set so abilities are your numbered cards
23:44
right that you play and do things inititive initiative but also means the higher number you play the less dudes
23:49
you can get into your Tableau yeah yeah so if you do a 13 card you can put like five dudes from your the supply into
23:55
your ready to put out so higher the number the lower dudes you get to put so if that wasn't clear which way do I go
24:02
mhm you got your base Supply which is off and you got a a certain amount that you can deploy with so you got to kind
24:08
of keep pumping up the amount of mles that you can use and you can get into a situation where go yeah I can put five
24:14
on the map what would sell it with me for this is how long did it take oh wasn't that
24:20
long was it it wasn't it was a teaching game so little bit longer than the normal but under two hours yeah okay that's fine yeah i' would play that yeah
24:26
it was just in done laugh don't take it seriously and people start crying you
24:32
bastard and that's exactly what said evok some emotion me it's a good game it doesn't sound like it's a traditional
24:38
dudes on a map game no like you've got like it yeah so you've got the kind of Clank mechanic of everyone's putting a
24:45
token into a thing that I'm guessing gets Spilled Out at some point or or taken away or yeah whatever the Castillo
24:51
is just a another region that you don't have full visibility of what's in there yeah Mak and when you get to the round
24:58
three after I think rounds 3 six and N you then score everything from top to
25:04
bottom and then you you pull all the meeples out um on uh and and score that region but the beauty is from that is
25:11
that those meatles that come out end up going I think where you want you can kind of put them onto the map directly
25:17
so that can help in other areas so there's a little bit of bit of cool things there but yeah it's it's not your
25:23
traditional you don't battle each other you don't like I'm I'm going to send my troops in and fight you or do anything
25:28
like that it's literally just moving things around to get the best timing to score the best amount points more people
25:35
the other P yeah it's it's straightforward and simplees sound quite good it's just yeah I really enjoyed it
25:40
for a game that's 30 years old yeah yeah thought it was really good some of the classics you it's a classic that's
25:46
exactly what it is it's a classic so thank you Adam for bringing it along um really liked it yeah they hold up yeah
25:53
yeah cool nice right should we go to the main event Let's Do It Let's Do It Let's fake
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[Music]
TURN 3 - Main Event: The Great British Board Game Bake Off
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right so let's go to the main EV eight so we're going to do the Great British board game bake off so let me explain
26:23
the rules okay so what I'm going to do I'm going to list some ingredients in board games so I mean by ingredients I
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mean like um uh game mechanics um resources any kind of thing that's in
26:35
the it can be in Bard games I will list these ingredients and you guys have to come up with an existing ball game that
26:42
exists already of what these it consists of some or all the ingredients okay um
26:48
you will get a point for every ingredient you if the ball game consists of it one point for every ingredient
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okay um you will get two points if it's the highest ranking game on PO Game Geek
27:00
oh nice officials okay I like that little twist yeah so you get two extra points rank yeah and you get should have
27:06
done two points another two points if you come with the baking time and I mean the baking time is the game time of the
27:12
game on the box which we know is wildly usually and I will give 30 minutes D way
27:19
I know less or more okay on that let him cook okay and um so that's it it's
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really simple and then we'll just we'll do a couple some rounds we're not sure how many we'll see what time we get and then we'll count out the points at the
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end there will be special bonus points for each round as well which I'll explain when we come around bonus okay so little targets to go for okay I'm
27:39
excited it's the it's the icing on the cake isn't it the icing on the cake Oh I thought it was the cherry on top cherry
27:44
on the top there we go depends which where you're inclined really isn't it bit of icing or a bit of Cherry Bottom
27:50
I'll give you a couple of minutes between each TR to think of something I mean we'll see if everyone's done it we'll just cut it short but we we'll sort that out okay so you ready then
Round 1
27:58
Bakers here we go we're going to do round one buttery biscuit base so round
28:03
one you will get an extra five points if you come up the same game I've come up with O Okay so plus five for got to get
28:10
inside tambo's mind yeah get get in your apron I'm going to be wearing you as an
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apron that's right okay enough about that can we play the game yeah stop it
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right okay so ingredient one will be a worker placement mechanic ingredient two
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will be a resource management mechanic and uh ingredient three will be
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tile placement so any kind of putting tile placement onto the game um has to
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have a VP engine which I say engine a VP scoring okay um consist of
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weapons and consist of weapons so any kind of weapons that you're in the game a weapon as a weapon
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okay um has a negative VP kind of thing in the game oh so we got six ingredients
28:57
you might have six 5 six or yeah six in this one right yep um and the cooking time is 3 and 1/2 hours oh okay so a
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negative VP kind of going on I've got one as well you so that's quick so I was
29:11
going to say bake and then but everyone seems to okay I think I've got it as well right how how long 3 and a half
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hours three and a half hours okay I don't know why I did that one in hours the rest will be in minutes that kind of got better this is
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just a little warm up by the way that's good um so remember you don't have to use all the doing three and a half hours
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in minutes AR you no no no I'm just I'm I you don't have to use all the ingredients remember there's no pressure
29:37
I think I know the name of the game in my head but I I hate it I can't remember it for some strange reason um it to
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CIA please don't talk to the other can you take can we can we take
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the piss out the the other um Bakers only only if they can't say the name of the games absolutely
29:59
okay are we all ready y yeah yep okay we all decided yeah fine okay so let's go for JP fizzle which one have you got
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what have you got I had a choice of two but I went for feast for Odin okay that's what I went for because I think it
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has well I know it has work placement I know it has Resource Management I know it definitely has tile placement
30:17
definitely I've played it it has VP engines you definitely have weapons cuz you spear whales and stuff and you have
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negative VPS if you don't do stuff properly like most uve Rosenberg games yeah yeah
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cool so that's good I like that so Feast of Odin for J pizzle that's me
30:35
mhm okay well I've got two as well well one I'm I'm going for Lords of Water
30:41
Deep okay but I also went for Agricola which one did you pick Lord
30:48
Lord that's the cake I made that's one I could remember could have Beena could have been kava then I realized I've just
30:53
said it to Davey but I was taking the piss out of him and not actually meaning it real that
30:58
you're going to kick yourself back yeah yeah it's CER isn't it yeah [ __ ] it do put uh so I was going to go
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for Lords of water deep but Becky's just said it so and no one likes having the same cake twice right so quickly I'm
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going to say this is the first one I going allow but you shouldn't be changing your decision doesn't matter you still I've wrote I've wrote it down okay I wrote down two okay loss ears of
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arac okay okay yes cuz there's negative VPS in there's work placement there is
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resources there is tile placement there is VP generation it has a weapon and
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also has negative sorry when you do the adventure stuff you put tiles out which
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when you discover the place when you discover the place thees you turn the tiles over yeah see this is where we come there's tiles and you place tiles
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on the B moners really do allow face I'm screwing my face the
31:50
answer is Cava isn't it is C that's the one I came up with [ __ ] cuz it's got all sometimes my my cakes won't have all the
31:55
ingredients that one does yeah there were weapons in C I wrote I wrote look
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my bit my bit of paper you were taking the piss out of me as well that teach me
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for being rude about people won't it that's why you shouldn't look over and take the piss out of my cake so I think you your on your own
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cake I think L of Deep's got everything in that yes cuz the shops are tile placement yes yeah and it has minus VP
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cuz there's little Quest you hand out and it can take you three and a half hours if you play it like I play it I'm
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WR to all the games on you guys have chosen and I'll um so yeah I'm going Lord that's going to be the I do wish
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I'd have gone for Cav now ruins yeah when you said it I thought why did you
32:36
why did you say that yeah I I said it before I even thought about I didn't write it because I can't say it so I just want to avoid
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that so never heard of this game yeah exactly
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Ceres um I'll do the scoring at the end and I'll figure out all the next little bits I've done the the ingredients okay
32:56
so that was round one I'm going to need who had the best looking cake then T um out of all them yeah I would probably
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have said uh L lost ruins L ruins my faite cake say that those three games
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lost ruins wins it for me teachet over here yeah we don't get any points for it but it does look get a handshake get handshake oh
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there we go hand like I don't know what you're talking about I just realize people yeah people haven't watched bake
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off this will make no sense it's more people probably have watched bake off than
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definitely it's it's one of the TV shows terrestrial TV shows I actually enjoy so
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it's one of the few I watch I've not watched it but I know what it is and I know all the references you're most references I like it best
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when they've still got the really crap ones in it yeah and they just make absolute fails because it just it just I
33:50
don't normally sort of have Shard and Freud for people because I normally feel sorry for them but in bake off I love it
33:56
I love it when they just mess it up so bad oh it's brilliant well that's we got more rounds to go so let's see what
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happens more difficult be a burn cake or our ingredients now then T so round two
Round 2
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okay um so we have asymmetric abilities yeah we got dice
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rolling it must contain cards of any kind yeah combat of any kind mhm it must
34:22
have an upgrading system oh mhm and it must have Quest stroke missions o and
34:31
monsters or aliens so both I'll accept Okay and um cooking time you have 120
34:39
Minutes cool got one okay uh special rules for this round you get minus five
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points for the one I've chosen oh oh maybe I won't go for that one avoid
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the Tambo special voo special so we got asymmetric abilities you guys can see
34:56
when play it we got dice rolling contains cards combat upgrading quests
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or missions either I accept both or Monsters or aliens and I'll accept
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both cool okay got it stra it Ry don't again I will say
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again you don't have to use all ingredients but just do the best you can Bakers yeah do you like a big
35:21
cake would you like a small cake I'd rather have a cupcake have a cupcake yeah I'm not a massive cake fan
35:28
no give me a pasty M depends on the person pasty pasty this is the Great
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British pasty Mak they sometimes always they I love Savory food more than cake I
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get a bit bored with cake it's like oh it's cake isn't it great so have we all chosen we all happy yeah I'm not pleased
35:46
with mine my Cake's not turned out how I wanted oh no s it no no let's start off with Becky
35:55
then just to June June June you for June okay so asymmetric abilities count yeah
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mhm dice rolling no dice rolling dice rolling there's cards cards lot cards
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comat combat upgrading I would you sort of do as you go up that pathway don't you little bit oh if you're playing X
36:15
and you get and you get like a better version of your little workers when you I'm tasting it I'm tasting it tting
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little off with expansions yeah expansions yeah yeah okay say yes G in
36:28
and quests and missions not really no and moners sand worm come On's one Al
36:35
giant sand tast little taste taste yeah it's right in the middle okay so fine
36:42
judging my cake finding it not not disgusting there's a worm in my
36:49
cake ride it and it's very very dry cuz there's no water and it's too spicy
36:54
yeah starts hallucinating oh oh God okay good bit of Dune that's a good
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effort Becky nice effort JP have we got I went for arcs ARS okay a symmetric yes
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leaders in law baby dice rolling a plenty was minimal dice rolling dice oh
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yeah there is combat yeah yeah yeah there's definitely combat there's definitely cards there definitely cards yeah definitely combat upgrading is the
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probably the one I struggle with yeah no upgrading you don't tend to upgrade so I'll ignore that but okay quests and
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missions if you're playing blighted Reach campaign is in the game so I will allow it
37:30
Monsters and Aliens sure of aliens they all Ali and they all
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aliens everything you play depending on who you are as an alien so it's all space space stuff so six out of seven
37:41
woo you have it's pretty good yeah nice crust okay and mine's like a 3D cake
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it's got a nice dragon on top cuz I went for descent oh okay so asymmetric Powers
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right everyone's different yeah um dice rolling yep lots of dice rolling how you play do the combat uh cards you got
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cards yes cuz you got the items and upgrad Y yep uh combat all combat uh you
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upgrade as you go along it's got missions that's what you play each one and monsters that's that's a Full House
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is it yeah very nice there we go and you went for Nemesis right nope oh too many bones too many bones he was trying to
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catch j i to catch him out that one you did because my head just went space cuz you went asymmetric dice rolling combat
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and I went with space game and I thought well it's not eclipse for 2 hours I thought catch one of you
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baking time 2 hours yep 120 Minutes yep what for too many bones yeah well but
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it's on it's on the box I don't give a [ __ ] what's on the box go for what's on BB what's on the packet never never had
38:47
a 2our game of too many bones I think even so officially said it would only be half finished it' be an undercooked slop
38:53
wouldn't it that's what it would be when I've done the baking time I've always look what says on the box we know what's on the box oh that's trash so that could
38:59
be per it's not per player is it on no I think you're right it's probably per player but it could be but I said 120
39:05
minutes should have been I had a good second I was thinking Clank catacombs okay yeah asymmetric if you
39:12
play it with the expansion which one I've got no dice rolling no yeah dice was but I didn't want to match fully with te because you get minus five yeah
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yeah so it's got cards it's got combat you upgrade I mean you you're getting no
39:25
you're not upgrading are you I'm not anyone you you're sort of doing quests cuz you're going around a cave Cavern
39:30
system I would say no missions over well the campaign one maybe and there are
39:36
monsters there are monsters there are monsters yeah see anyway and you see doing fine it's quite a lot of games
39:42
when you think about it mates there were load that's why I just kind of mixed up some but you know what Bakers we didn't
39:47
get the minus 5 VP no you I mean I mean yay come Paul what was
39:55
your favorite cake yeah um oh all those yeah what the star Baker the Star Baker
40:00
well they're all very good I'm going to say they all did a good effort there but um it's got to be June oh yes there you
40:07
go well Doney you know I probably should have done a bonus for my favorite right but hey you uh you like the way the worm
40:13
felt went down oh Wiggles Wiggles call him Wiggles Wiggles the worm is that new
40:20
thing every time you see it Wiggles Wiggles so bad anyway stop it what I
40:25
didn't mean it like there was no sexual contact cont contact I should I should Jolly well hope not you I hope my June
40:32
worm hasn't had any sexual contact with you okay it's got teeth I hope not Jesus
40:38
Christ well I don't know if it's a popcorn bucket yeah everyone see the popcorn bucket vagina the popcorn you
40:44
never saw the popcorn there was lots of lots of comments about the popcorn bucket it looks [ __ ] horrendous it
40:50
just looks horrendous yeah and lots of people were like oh I know I'm going to go to the cinema for anyway T yeah carry
Round 3
40:56
on okay round three are we ready yeah okay so ready yeah space so ingredients
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then right so round three right ingredients so you got space SP space Resource
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Management cards engine building again asymmetric
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abilities area control and spaceships bonus points lowest ranking
41:26
game get game will get extra five points Rank and the person with the same game
41:32
as me that I've chosen will get three points as well okay so if you get both
41:40
kaching and bake oh I can see few stress heads
41:45
here so would you like me to go outter space Resource Management cards engine building asymmetric abilities area
41:53
control spaceships I'm good good the pie is out the oven the pie is Out the Oven okay so
42:01
let's start with was it was it Wireless was it wipie wipie that is awful I don't even know
42:06
what that is I'm like an old grandma that is not getting any of the references they're going straight
42:11
refence that was just a Wi-Fi J it's just a Wi-Fi pun cuz I said was it Wireless cuz he was getting his thing
42:17
out in the oven and I said is it Wii getting out Wi-Fi oh okay getting in the
42:22
contact list getting out of the oven cuz he's using his phone I don't know it was just wi I get now I get it it was bad
42:28
yeah it was bad it was geek funny yeah yeah I'm just too cool for school too
42:34
cool to find that funny tool that's so untrue okay then David what have you
42:40
baked for us um so I went for risk deep space okay I've not played this so I'm going to take every word that's true CU
42:46
you be honest uh well what it definitely doesn't have Resource Management right I don't think I've never played it either
42:53
okay so this going to be F I knew there was a space Risk game though so you got out spacing we got that right don't know
42:58
we don't I think I've dropped two points to hopefully get the five that was my uh that was my oh cuz the lowest ranking
43:04
tactical baking tacal baking here I've not put any eggs in because I know that they the the judges were allergic to
43:11
eggs so cards cards cards cards right engine
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building no engine building oh okay asymmetric abilities what you didn't say that did you yeah he did oh did you I
43:24
said it twice oh yeah there will be I don't know but in a RIS game yeah the the the the flashy R I think that sounds
43:31
that sounds tasty sounds like [ __ ] I think
43:38
someone's lying if got the salt and pepper taste of Lies area control Davey
43:43
yes that's one thing it definitely has spaceships yes cool feel free to email
43:50
tell us dve is totally lying if you know the absolutely comments below yes definitely um it's a kids game as well
43:58
so it called risk deep space okay I'm just try to go for the lowest game and I
44:05
knew there was one set in space I think we can all guess what I went for terraforming Mars ding ding ding ding ding yeah baby so I get three points for
44:13
matching with the judge yes get in so yeah definitely space definitely Resource Management definitely cards
44:19
definitely engine building y as symetric abilities definitely area control definitely and then spaceships you got
44:25
your little on colonies my favorite an expansion though right but come on
44:30
you don't play it without it do you are you criticizing her bacon yeah yeah eyes on your own cake well no it's just
44:36
you've done one cake and you've done some couple cakes on the side and you're putting them all in one as one cake
44:41
there's more cake therefore it's B come on a terraforming mil's cake yeah yeah but it's like I'll just see some cakes
44:48
on my C on top with extra little spring calls come on but unfortunately Becky
44:54
very high ranking so I know I know but it's the only one I can think of so just a multi-tier cake yeah it's fine it's
45:00
got levels JP I went for forbidden Stars oh
45:06
nice um that has space in it it has spaceships in it I don't think it has
45:12
Resource Management in it because it in Board Game Gear you can't see it uh it definitely has cards it has asymmetrical
45:19
abilities it has area control and I don't think it has engine building but I would know spaceships right yeah yeah so
45:26
I think under five it's quite high rated day yeah where my brain went I really
45:32
want to play it I want to play with Market um 40K yeah it's 40K Universe
45:38
yeah looks really good it's cool it's old but it's cool so low ranking do you
45:43
think cuz it's no he quite well regarded so I think it's still up there okay but
45:49
we'll see won't we yeah we'll see okay so round four are we ready yeah yeah
Round 4
45:57
Special rules five points for my favorite game which is kind of we've been doing like but you're going to get points for this time okay okay uh you
46:03
will get minus three points if you have the same game as someone else oh no okay
46:10
it's like just one so no discussing what you're writing down right yeah yeah so round four you got social
46:16
deduction basically backstabbing
46:22
combat semi Coop asymmetric abilities
46:30
actions story events and baking time of 120 to 180
46:36
minutes oh yeah sometimes you're overthinking it will just sometime I'm just I'm just
46:41
going with my gut you know I'm a I'm a gutsy Baker you're a fast Baker yeah
46:47
yeah I'm a gutsy Baker so we have social deduction which is backstabbing I like
46:52
to call it combat semic Coop asymmetric ability
46:57
actions story events and bakon time of 120 to 180 minutes all good yeah right let's start
47:05
with Becky this time unfathomable I very nearly went there and I thought no Becky's probably gone
47:11
there that's the only one that she knows she's definitely that one I don't see anyone else changing things I thought
47:17
you might G definitely comat definitely semic definitely asymmetric abilities
47:23
definitely uh actions definitely and story events perfect I think the time might be absolutely bananas though but
47:29
it might be what the box says exactly too many bones 2 hours yeah non what a
47:34
load of clap track they always underes I swear they must get the time off someone that's played it loads and then they go
47:41
oh how how quickly are you playing it now play play testers they were like oh yeah yeah 20 minutes yeah I wonder how
47:48
they come up with the time I wonder what sort of um rubric they use cut algi how do they they just they're just like oh
47:55
how quick can you get that done oh right yeah 20 minutes yeah done maybe they make like a an electrified version like
48:03
a computer version and that's the time they P but let's face it do you look at the box and go oh that's too long for me
48:08
no yeah never no no no but then some people might which is why they always cut it down I don't even look at times
48:15
anymore because of how much [ __ ] they are that means nothing yeah they mean nothing it's like literally just
48:20
some random arbitrary numbers written on the side rant over yeah
48:28
that's later might as well put their birthdays on the side instead they're more likely to get better responses I'll
48:33
send you a present Dave's livid really grinds my
48:39
gears really get go on then D what have you got mate I've got Nemesis okay nice
48:46
yeah yeah yeah so there's combat there's social deduction semi Coop if you want it to be um asymmetric Powers Yeah
48:54
actions yep story events yeah yeah I know my judge he's winking at me
49:01
J pisle I went for Battle Star Galactica very I nearly changed mine for
49:06
that so I'm glad I didn't and I thought Becky's going on fa why I didn't go play our Jud we
49:13
played each other knowing going to get our yeah nice okay so we never no one got the
49:20
same so I'm going to have to say David win because Nemesis my favorite what a kiss
49:27
that was the whole point of that he took the risk he might have one of you conf you would have still got two points if
49:33
if you got the same true oh well we just like being original don't we JP we're unique just
49:40
like everyone else yeah yeah I'm going to go back to Condy with
49:46
me nobody likes you Julie well I don't give a
Round 5
49:55
[ __ ] round five last round is it is the last well no cuz you still got the um you still got The Showdown
50:01
stopper ultimate round one more round before f one more B I'm enjoying myself so carry yeah yeah so extra round
50:08
special rules again I'm not same as me all right you get extra five points plus
50:14
five same as two okay so this is probably out for a debate when we have this but it's got to be a lightweight game everyone's different versions a
50:20
lightweight but a lightweight game well Li in like you know medium heavy weight lightweight not a small box
50:28
no heavy on the brain not scales of weight I don't know what this lightweight game means cards only Oh
50:36
cards only must have some sorts of token pieces ah oh and player
50:42
elimination but we don't have to use all these Resource Management oh engine building oh no and
50:49
the cooking time can't be my right here uh I got 15 minutes to an hour so
50:58
what was after Resource Management sorry mate uh engine building okay so I'll go for it again we got lightweight cards
51:03
only token pieces player elimination resource management and enging building cooking time are 15 minutes to an hour
51:11
okay I've got one bang straight in straight out s it okay we all good all
51:16
happy with our bakes we'll see in a minute go on Davey what have you got so I've put furnace oh okay I've never
51:22
played furnace no a light game it is low weight is
51:28
I don't think it is is I to Rolling Mr judge on the wait I
51:34
can teach it to you in three minutes what are we what are we saying light on on BGG if I can teach you the rules in a
51:41
couple of minutes that up if you want full weight I want everyone's it's going to be about a 2.5 and I think that is the I don't think it's
51:48
2.5 midweight is about three right Midway is three B G G oh he's telling me
51:53
your navigation Ste your house JP I don't need that anymore right anyway so I know how competive you are I need
51:59
the point there's no player elim that's the one I've left out cuz that's but I no player elimination no I think
52:06
probably I mean 2.32 so he's not wrong told you [ __ ] told you I can teach to you in two minutes it's low way so light
52:12
way cards only cards only yeah token token pieces yes Play No player elimination Resource Management yes yes
52:20
that's the main game and engine building yes lots of resource I stand just do you
52:26
know the cooking time do you know cooking time probably about 30 minutes cooking times 30 to 60 according to B
52:32
damn it a minute Dam he made an amazing cake um that's pretty spot on but I think you've probably gone for tiny epic
52:38
dinos oh no cuz that's probably his class lightweight but no I haven't he
52:44
uses tiles as well yes maybe yeah it does so you got
52:49
whole six points at Davey thank you no you haven't Five Points cuz you didn't get playing eliminated no no there's no player okay pizzle what we got I right
52:57
love letter oh yeah nice that is good cards only tokens cuz you get little
53:02
pieces play elimination definitely play elimination resource no building really no it's good
53:09
game I like that though but you got the rest of them in yeah that's a solid not a solid cake cuz nobody wants a solid
53:15
cake that's a nice that's a nice yeah cooking time well with then F show yeah there only one you didn't get
53:22
there isn't it oh no two you yeah there's no resources in it yeah
53:27
didn't rise just as quite as much as you wanted did it mine was in and out of the furnace I like
53:36
it Becky I've gone for scout oh okay lightweight
53:41
definitely only yep uses tokens you got your little SC your little what's it
53:46
called SC show SC show elimination defin yeah y Resource
53:52
Management yeah you knock out yeah you people get knocked out don't they oh people do kind of get knocked out right
53:59
do they you know what it's been a while since I played it they don't really get knocked out but you you can knock all
54:05
them you get a real cool hand and say like I've done quickly and it kind of knocks everybody out like that the
54:11
people who's the judge here that's just sorry who's the judge here I think T's absolutely right no I think he's
54:18
[ __ ] you just end the round but no building just eliminate everyone all right okay sorry just sh on my I
54:28
sh took a big p on my cake it was management not any of that no and engine
54:33
building no none of that I'm here on your chest it is 15 to an hour come on
54:38
you can play that yeah over and stuck his finger in your cake yeah he just snotted on my cake it
54:46
wasn't my finger that Dune worm's coming out
The Show Stopper
54:54
again so we on the round the show stop around okay um I'm going to give you a
55:00
list of ingredients now uh Special Rule is extra five points if it's in the
55:07
Curly's collection oh get in I've got a winner but okay so I've got a chance
55:14
worker placement deck building has to have a game board die rolling dinosaurs
55:21
or animals engine building farming it's got have a c match up mechanic that' be
55:27
nice drafting cards exploration um asymmetric abilities and
55:34
a personal objective and the baking time is 60 to 180 minutes oo okay uh try this
55:41
is one you just got try and use as many ingredients as you can to the wom really and if it's in the Curly's collection we
55:47
can any dinosaur game basically is in our collection is or an animal the same set an animal or dinosaur I like how
55:53
you've done it just for for the listeners um benefit he's got little emoticon of a dinosaur after the word
55:58
dinosaur which I really appreciate there's no expense spared on this
56:05
episode have some time you got a couple of minutes here the showstopper after all's the showstopper have you got a
56:12
game that's got all of these in no I haven't got anything I've just literally set a load of ingredients and then bake
56:17
basically in this one and I thought Becky have an advantage seeing as though she's one of the curries but we also
56:23
know what's in Curly's collection so I think it's prob be fair yeah she's got be an advantage on
56:29
that one but we've all seen Curly's collection yeah we've all seen collection Cur we know it's not just
56:35
yours yours as well beex all the curries are in shrink you know I I should have I
56:41
should have put shiny ingredi still the shrink on it still in shrink yeah
56:47
couldn't be anything so let's do the old showstoppers I'm slapping my cake um so
56:54
oh Dave go y oh he said JP I said DAV sorry get going
56:59
get back in the kitchen yeah yeah go back to your part of the kitchen I like it when you speak St to me yeah I
57:06
just see Dave up walking with Kate oh no I've baked the most glorious dinosaur
57:14
shaped cake I think you've got to yeah describe your cake and what it looks like first right yeah basically if we can guess the beginning
57:21
of the cake the front on the stand looks like a massive wooden gate as you
57:26
approach it the gate opens to reveal said cake okay think torches think
57:32
jungle think din think Jurassic Park think
57:38
dinogenics okay so worker placement yes it does 100% deck building no don't
57:45
think so no it has a board it does yes it's got dice even I hate them the one
57:51
dice yeah two there's two actually is it got two I can't remember
57:56
it has dinosaurs 100% yeah engine building no well you could get the
58:03
[Music] stuff said no farming you kind of farm
58:09
you're farming dinosaurs no you you put fences up you don't Farm [ __ ] off no
58:14
what well no no swearing Great British oh
58:20
sorry I'm not allow farming you don't Farm goats all oh actually no I do allow it cuz there's a thing called goat Farm
58:26
there is yes there is that's what he meant wasn't it that's the flavor you me AB half a point half a point half a
58:32
point right I think that's what got the on that one drafting cards I don't think you draft no is there a catchup mechanic
58:38
is there a catch-up mechanic no not really cuz I fell so far behind the last game i hatte t would remember if there a
58:45
catch up I remember you don't explore anything no asymmetric abilities no no I
58:50
don't think you have personal objectives I thought you did no you played it recently Bing time who
58:58
knows could be I'll find out for you could be 30 minutes could be 5 hours who
59:03
knows what number have they written on the box I got you down for five on that yeah I'm not going to
59:10
lie and it's in Curly's collection yeah so you're going to get a plus five yeah it's 10 right it no nice yeah good Chase
59:19
yeah okay nicely described I was going to go with what does what does the cake look
59:24
like what have you Enis the start the the cake I had in my mind had the lovely Gates and the and the
59:32
little but it isn't in our collection anymore I was going to go for Dinosaur Island okay but I didn't the cake I've
59:39
gone for again you're walking up you see these lovely lovely pearly gates with
59:45
kind of animals etched into them you're going to have a load of money in your pocket because you're going to spend a
59:51
lot of money in your amazing kiosks you're going to look at beautiful Pavilions and there's going to going to
59:56
be the most bizarre collection of animals you've ever seen you're going have a petting zoo over here and then you're going to have Shar half a shark
1:00:02
in that tank and another half of the shark in the tank over there obvious hey
1:00:08
you do know the Jud I know but this cake is so amazing I'm sure he'll learn to
1:00:13
love it one day he's just got to keep tasting that cake and he will like it in the end cuz the flavor is impeccable it
1:00:20
is Ark Nova is it the fact that he may taste the cake and realize he did worse
1:00:25
before uh he started eating the cake I think like M he like you love you hate
1:00:30
no I think you just yeah you realize the taste of the ingredients it's a separate to the taste of the cake is there a dead animal in my cake hey shush now there's
1:00:37
no dead animals in this zoo I feel like I feel like some them there are all this
1:00:43
time and energy in eating this cake and somehow feel worse and I'm further away from the cake so that has got come
1:00:50
on worker placement because you're putting your little people down on your Association track so you're deciding
1:00:57
[Applause] which build I mean you're cating a hand of
1:01:03
cards aren't you I would say so okay what you got your hand of card it's not a deck building no it's true hand
1:01:10
management it's true it's hand management along with engine remember that one hand management okay there's a
1:01:15
game board there's no die rolling sounds like my sex like there is no die rolling hand
1:01:22
manag don't do anything Ione near my cake sorry game board definitely
1:01:29
yeah tea that Dune Imperium cup that Dune in cup yeah yeah I was going to cut
1:01:34
that out of the episode I can't now referenced all the way through so dinosaur and animals 100% engine
1:01:42
building I think you engine building farming there was a farm in it going by
1:01:48
there was a farm in farm cat but there a farm there's a card that's petting zoo
1:01:54
that's not a farm there's a far isn't there a farming card you set up a farm in little really there a farm cat but I
1:02:01
don't the [ __ ] card no I I don't they never know he's never played no exactly uh catchup mechanic not really apart
1:02:08
from the 100 points actually you get the end to make you're not on minus anymore CU everyone hates it that's not a catch that's a you are drafting card you are
1:02:16
drafting cards and I think you're sort of exploring the zoo because you're you've got the you've got the You' got
1:02:22
the perimeter come come on you've got perimeter of where you can go and you
1:02:28
explore from one side of the map you have to stay connected to that and you're exploring out onto your
1:02:34
map Oh Come yes come on I would call that more area control and as you go
1:02:40
along you when you when you you know build your things on there you might get a little bonus because some some tiles
1:02:47
have got tile bonus I like the fact you're exploring all possibilities yeah no oh s you then stop your [ __ ]
1:02:57
yes because your your maps are different to each other so yes you have to give me that and you do have personal objectives
1:03:04
because you've got your end of end defitely and you can play that in both
1:03:09
60 minutes and 180 minutes yeah go on Davey we my K count and all you see on
1:03:15
this on the little tray is a big X to start with is he going to give it to
1:03:20
you no but as soon as you you clear the X away it's going to open up and
1:03:26
underneath there's going to be a little island there and it's going to have all the little bits on and guess what it's the Lost ruins of arac okay there we go
1:03:35
I led you down a nice little story time then yeah so it's got worker placement I learned a lot about myself in that story
1:03:42
yeah it's got de it's got they did the deck building it's got a game board yeah doesn't have a dice rolling no it's got
1:03:48
dinosaurs or animals excuse me moners or it's got
1:03:54
monsters no it's got the you've got little you've got like a little dog you can get in the there is a monkey in the
1:03:59
expansion I don't want to agree with him but it is true and there's dinosaurs as well that you fight you don't fight
1:04:06
dinosaurs they're made up monsters there's a dinosaur you got the animal dinosaurs you got the got anyway just I
1:04:12
mean engine building got a monkey by accident engine building there's no farming no no
1:04:19
farming no catch up with me mechanic no drafting um but there is expiration yeah
1:04:24
100% uh there's asymmetric abilities personal objectives is there is there no I don't
1:04:32
remember no there's no personal um and you can't time you can't
1:04:37
B you got 30 minute leeway so you probably could play that time you got I
1:04:42
think that was a good shot there we go even though I've already done it it does fit best because you also it's in your
1:04:49
collection can I can I just clarify something yeah was it legally purchased
1:04:54
from you Davey Oh what you mean yeah bought it no arac yeah L yeah he bought it damn
1:05:02
why it's GNA get you on the technicality your own game stored at the
1:05:08
no no it was it was bought with legal tender of this country it was bought with legal tender then I stand corrected
1:05:13
yet again but yeah I've done lost ruins twice but it just it fitted it did fit nicely mate it did I liked it I could
1:05:20
think of anything else that is there actually a game that has all of that in no I just put a load together okay so
Who is the star baker?
1:05:27
all points added up and we have a clear winner so o joint last place second place is JP and
1:05:36
Beck we 49 each and Davey the Star Baker points the master Baker he really
1:05:44
won on the round with the Nemesis one cuz that got everything a is my favorite game and then he got the best Rank and
1:05:50
it was in time so yeah you did some good cake Dave well done BR the that was rank
1:05:57
yeah so what up guys nice I liked it good I'm please I
1:06:03
enjoyed that eny that good fun I would bake again 10 out of 10 start baking M well done all right so hope you all
1:06:08
enjoyed that let's move on to the receive leave or [Music]
TURN 4 - Receive, Sleeve or Leave
1:06:21
sleeve so I have kept it into the same of theme so anything that this all the
1:06:27
three games contain ingredients food okay I like that all right so we have got
1:06:35
Cava quacks mhm or Septima oh te it's like you were being
1:06:41
the espcially you they all have ingredients in it so they they absolutely do yeah yes they do okay
1:06:48
Cavern has more food than ingredients but that's cool it works works um there's a vegetable in there a vegetable
1:06:53
some grain so some dwars difficult one David do you know straight away yeah I think so go on
1:07:00
there so I think I would actually leave uh cavera cuz I really enjoyed it when I
1:07:06
first played it and then something just clicked and I just suddenly don't want
1:07:12
to play it anymore and I don't know what it is I think I need to play it again but at the moment in my current mindset
1:07:18
leave CA okay um and I would uh sleeve quacks cuz you kind of have to SLE s
1:07:25
quacks otherwi it otherwi the tokens just yeah and the tokens just fall apart yeah um and I would receive um the other
1:07:35
one sept sept because it's too expensive to buy oh you fair that's fair that's
1:07:43
fair cuz I I enjoy sepa but I I don't think I'd ever buy it myself okay so if someone wanted to buy it for me then
1:07:49
fine nice yeah J pizzle I'm going to start with leave which is September cuz I already did
1:07:55
that of course she again that's not because I think it's bad or anything that's because I
1:08:01
know Becky's got it that's a a major factor in my decision- making is if another person's got it or has that game
1:08:09
I don't need to have it and you know I'm never going to sell it and you're never going to sell it I'll always be able to
1:08:14
play it so there's always a thing but I don't enjoy it as much as Other M clash
1:08:20
games so I'd always want to play a traron or an anacron or void fall or
1:08:25
something else so that's that's gone leave gone so really I actually would receive
1:08:33
quacks because quacks is fun have a good time with quack every time I play it it
1:08:39
is what it is and I'd probably sleeve CER um because I I haven't played it
1:08:45
enough and why not I own most UV games is the one I don't own so why the hell
1:08:50
not yeah um so there we go do you want a copy you can buy a copy I got copy you
1:08:56
want a copy might do we'll see there we go we'll see I've got completely different answers as well to everybody
1:09:02
so I am sleeving Septima yeah y with premium sleeves cuz I already did that
1:09:08
yeah M with the super yeah yeah yeah this has happened yep um I'm receiving
1:09:14
premium sleeve look like what are those trip th extra thick extra thick yeah oh
1:09:19
nice make sure those witches don't get out absolutely you got to keep the powers in keep the powers in yeah um
1:09:26
receiving caverna because I really like that game yeah I really like it much more than
1:09:32
Agricola probably because it's about dwarves that's really the only difference but but I like it better yeah
1:09:38
I like it better and I'm leaving quacks which is sad because I loved that game I
1:09:44
played it a lot and you're right the pieces do just disintegrate if care they
1:09:49
do the oils of your fingers just like melted away but it's been in my collection a very long time it's never
1:09:56
going to leave my collection I mean I'm not talking crazy here but it's the game I've played the least in a long time so
1:10:03
if someone came into my house and stole it would I notice probably not yeah which probably means I should sell it
1:10:09
shouldn't it probably but it's a good one to have with people that don't normally play ball games right that's it it's a great
1:10:16
Gateway game to have yeah and I did managed to get rid of carcasson and
1:10:21
Katan which were my other like kind of wooed me into the hobby quack quacks is staying but
1:10:29
great yeah in in this I'm leaving it if I only had three games I'd sleeve Septima receive cavera and leave qu
1:10:36
there you go all of us a different yeah be you T um I will probably sleeve Cav is one of my
1:10:45
favorites I do already have it um I will definitely receive sep for the same reason as Davey cuz I haven't got it and
1:10:50
it's expensive and I like playing it and I play qu loads in the past so I could caply leave that I've got it but I could
1:10:55
leave I play it so much in the past mhm there you go yeah there we go different weren they no I think me and you were the same no no no it's different I
1:11:04
received set I sleeved C oh you there there's six different there's six
1:11:09
different variations we can have is look that e three * 2 * one wow so we could you some sort of Genius like I'm like a
1:11:16
little mathematical knob say you're like Carol vman but that's that's a reference for the ages I wish I was like Carol
1:11:23
vman vs yeah so let's wrap up to the ultimate [Music]
TURN 5 - Penultimate Turn: What's Coming Up
1:11:35
turn okay so what we got coming up JP so we've got a base game of traron coming
1:11:43
up that Rob has requested now this is quite a momentous occasion right because
1:11:48
Rob's I say recently he's probably not recent anymore but Rob's been dabbling in the heavier things uh in the Hobby
1:11:56
and he said actually that old magician thing sounds like i' be up for a bit of a bit of a go so I said right we'll put
1:12:02
putare on going to cast some spells is he just no
1:12:07
tricks stop getting it wrong who's playing just no who else is playing I
1:12:14
can't remember there's one Stewart and curlyy I think maybe because it filled up pretty there you go this there's four
1:12:21
I can't remember the other two probably curly cuz he was magicians come to the par magicians correct not Wizards it's a
1:12:26
very clever game there not mine it's very clever put together game it's it's
1:12:32
it's it's a yeah yeah I love it but I get why people could fallat so I do you
1:12:39
can fall off and not being able to get like back on and you'll just know you're going to lose quite on I think so unless
1:12:47
you look out on the old prophecies um she they can manipulate there all ways are working back out but
1:12:53
you have to know what you're doing got to know what you're doing yeah your first game you're not going to know that so no looking forward to playing that um
1:13:00
and as always it's giving it a we so we got a loads of other things going on but that's the one that sticks out of my
1:13:06
mind cool nice Becky um so I'm going to be playing some games with my friend who
1:13:11
is a not really a gamer and I'm going to get her to play canvas cuz I think she's
1:13:17
really going to like it have you got that have you yeah yeah I bought it at a convention which one was it off of a
1:13:24
person I think it was I think it might have been the Devon board game dice thing
1:13:30
last time okay maybe boame weekend yeah yeah I think so um so if you haven't
1:13:36
played canvas it's a very very beautifully produced small box game um
1:13:42
where you construct unique artwork out of kind of three sort of acetate pieces which have
1:13:49
got various like I don't know vague pictures like clouds are on one a cat might be on the other one and
1:13:56
then a I don't know a building or something and they've each got um few
1:14:01
maybe three different kind of almost like tags at the bottom yeah so certain colored tags certain objects um so you
1:14:09
have to lay these on top of each other you can't always see all of the tags that's the kind of R do you have two
1:14:15
purple ones and a green do you have the little rosette thing so you've got to try and get the most points out of these
1:14:22
and it's a really really simple but very beautiful but abstract in a nice non-challenging way and I think she's
1:14:28
going to like it that sounds cool yeah nice Davey um so we've been playing quite a
1:14:36
lot of cloud Spire recently so I've got another game of cloud Spire coming up been really enjoying it um I know it's
1:14:43
not for everyone and it's a bit of uh chalk and cheese but just love it the
1:14:49
more we play the better it's getting as well because you're understanding how other factions work how the game works
1:14:56
and I think it's one of those where if you're willing to invest the time in it it will reward you so yeah 100 100% no I
1:15:06
we've got like a we've got a gaming group and then we've got this mini Cloud
1:15:11
Spire group within Club it's like a corner and there's only like four of us in it and more welcome by the way but I
1:15:20
don't think they are I don't I don't think people want to join it so it's fine yeah and it's and it's just you're
1:15:26
right it's like the depth in that game is just oh it's just coming out you know what if I actually get that Friday off I
1:15:32
might come in again I've played it once and I was like I can't really remember it I remember the the movement bit being really hard to figure out cuz it just
1:15:38
goes one way do it yeah the the minions just go I'm going to the Fortress you know what if I actually have that Freddy
1:15:44
off you kind of have to let go of that though you have to be sometimes stuff will happen that's outside of your
1:15:50
control and that's fine and it's one of those weird games that actually we played it a three player and that kind
1:15:55
of game shouldn't work as a three player but because you have no agency they'll meet in the middle and
1:16:01
even if you both Target one person they all meet in the middle you end up killing both like of your minions and no
1:16:07
one gets through so it sounds like you're describing a cult I'm just putting it out there yeah is a bit C is
1:16:13
a bit Yeah Yeah you got to forget everything you ever knew because that might not happen and you got these other
1:16:18
things that don't have any say of anything and it doesn't really matter who you group up with because it all comes together in the air you join the
1:16:25
cult haven't you I'm really happy I'm so tempted I'm happy cuz my cop's getting
1:16:30
played so I remember doing an episode two years ago saying I think I really
1:16:35
love this game but not many people do so it doesn't get played and I was I was thinking about should I sell this um but
1:16:43
I do play solo um not often but I do and it's quite it's quite a good solo but
1:16:49
yeah I'm so glad I just hold on to it it's like there something said don't sell it don't sell it it's just it's
1:16:54
good but you just need the right people um like most games really found your little niche found a little corner and yeah
1:17:01
we've been having a blast with it so really can't wait for the expansion content to come out this year for to
1:17:07
that the harbinger expansion which is three more factions yes more so we'll have 10 to choose from um which will
1:17:16
probably lead to some more mad Combos and weird interactions that we still
1:17:21
haven't really figured out with the we need to remove that that one p that reveals
1:17:26
every landar on I'll get rid of it next game cuz I've seen it every game and it's annoying it's been infuriating it flips
1:17:34
every tile on the B on the on the map so you know what they are and we've had it every game and then it's it like
1:17:41
knackers up other things because you can't well it screwed up the middle didn't it so we had no spes yeah anyway
1:17:48
that's Spire chat that's our other podcast me and dve are going to start offo called conspire yeah the the elf
1:17:55
and Cary podcast uh no I'm going joking but yeah great great to play can't wait
1:18:01
we're going to keep just throwing events in through the year and just see how it Go been enjoying it yeah it's all good
1:18:09
how about you to um not much really want to play class yeah I thought
1:18:14
I would if I got I might I might consider it just see it give it another go um us there you go in the clouds um
1:18:22
but I got my sister coming over she really I played great TR once before the the old one and she really enjoyed it so
1:18:28
I got the New Zealand out to show and I'm looking forward to teaching them that I think we playing that sheep great game yeah yeah so we love it don't we
1:18:34
yeah it's good it's better than the original it's always nice to introduce games you love to other people you get them to love it yeah we'll see yeah but
1:18:41
isn't it disappointing when they don't like it that's horrible that feeling isn't it Oh I thought I knew you I
1:18:48
thought you like this yeah but never mind they're like VY culture oh stop no
1:18:53
but I I did it at Christmas and it it fell on its ass because everyone's sensible bloody vulture nonsense no I
1:18:59
just misjudged it and regretted it instantly as soon as that was played like it's got It's more it's got more
1:19:06
depth than you think yeah and I was like this is not a good idea this is not
1:19:11
going well oh wait these people like real wine games about wine [ __ ] I thought i' pitched
1:19:18
it that's why you live and learn yeah Le you do you do nice right so let's wrap
TURN 6 - The Final Turn
1:19:23
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1:19:37
get in contact with us all those details are on our show notes on our website um I'm now going to pass the Reign to Davey
1:19:45
he's now going to be first player next I am unlucky unlucky unlucky I'm scared
1:19:50
there's some crazy nonsense coming up guys I'm scared anyone who knows Davey's
1:19:56
episodes like we we always go right Dave it's your turn for first player and then we all brace ourselves cuz we just got
1:20:02
no idea what's coming but that's also quite exciting do are
1:20:08
know but now I'm looking forward to your episodes one as well like it's yeah it's always it's always an adventure yeah so
1:20:15
yeah it should be fun madness madness no but I really enjoyed today's I did T
1:20:20
thanks for all the effort you putting for that I I enjoyed it loved it okay guys thanks for listening and whose turn
1:20:26
is it it be Dave it's mine me

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