Becky: 0:34

Welcome to Whose turn is it anyway, podcast all about our twisting journey to curate the best ball game collections ever. I'm Becky, your current first player joined today around the table by JP Hello, and Adrian. Hello. So our episode today is all about whether you can ever have too many games in your collection. But before we delve into that question, how are we all Yeah, pretty

JP: 0:56

good for me.

Adrian: 0:57

Not too bad at all.

Becky: 0:58

Yeah, I'm pretty good.

JP: 0:59

Yeah, go view Iron Maiden. Yeah,

Becky: 1:02

yeah. Had a few sleep since then.

JP: 1:04

The number of the base. Yeah,

Becky: 1:06

it was amazing. It was just unreal. Yeah. And in fact, I'm wearing the t shirt. It's almost like my this is my podcast recording uniform now. Yeah. Yeah.

JP: 1:15

I've made an in crocs.

Becky: 1:18

I am a style icon.

JP: 1:22

trendsetter? Yeah. tropical green crocs Have you got over the the concert because obviously you came back from a weekend. Heavy weekend went to a concert and then you went back to work so yeah.

Becky: 1:33

Yeah, just about Yeah, just just about that was really silly, wasn't it? It was done that I continue to do it because it's anywhere that you can fit your stuff in isn't it so so

JP: 1:43

no one has 60 days holiday they can take a year know really?

Becky: 1:50

Adrian, how's how's life with you?

Adrian: 1:52

Yeah, all good. Nothing really to write home about sort of still just board gaming and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, nothing. Nothing exciting. I'm afraid to set up the start of the podcast

Becky: 2:11

as is our tradition, let's talk about hex what's our latest games played bought back excetera. Anyone been doing any kickstarting or no rounding? No?

JP: 2:22

No, I've been pretty good. For now.

Becky: 2:26

Look how much you've grown?

JP: 2:27

Well, no, because you asked me like two weeks ago or four weeks ago. My story? No, I've not backed anything for a while. Which is a good thing, I think. And it's been it's been a tough few months. There has been some good things coming out. Or coming on to the crowdfunding for sure. I've avoided it

Becky: 2:45

Dog Park expansion. Oh, yeah. First kickstart. First one Yeah. So did game found with Zuuli obviously yeah. What does early expansion and yeah, dog park expansion

JP: 2:55

have kickstarting New Tricks? Nice. can't teach an old dog new tricks. And I bought the little erm the jigsaw puzzle. You've put the why not? Because it was cool. You're their dream. I

Becky: 3:09

insert a bit of tat nonse here 13 pounds actually for the

JP: 3:14

jigsaw puzzle. Yeah. Something like that. Are you starbeck it? Yeah. Your birthday recently wasn't

Becky: 3:19

Yeah. So we decided to finally get Wild Serengeti ff the shelf of shame. It's been sat there. I think for a year.

JP: 3:22

On the rocks was Yeah, ish. We bought it from a Ben. We did. And we like Right. We'll play that. And we watched the last UK Games Expo. We watched the How To video. I'm gonna Oh, yeah, that sounds Yep. Got it. Yep. And then we didn't play it. And that was months ago. So Right. Right. Okay. We better just have a quick

Becky: 3:43

just a lovely, lovely quality again, I think probably refresh. But wow, what again? What, again, is amazing. And I want, you know, winning streak. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think clearly when he's on me, just because it's my birthday, because I don't think he'll go easy on that wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want that either. But yeah, it's very, it's kind of, it's got elements of other games that I enjoy. So there's kind of like, I guess, quest cards similar to Lords of Waterdeep, where you've got to achieve a thing. And that's probably the same as the 1000 games. Have a card achieved the thing? Yeah. So instead of just collecting certain colours of stuff, you have to have certain either orders of animals in a row, or certain kinds of animals in certain kinds of, of rain environment. Yeah, exactly. So you've got basically like a we've got the copy with the sort of blinged up bits, because chessboard kind of layout seven by seven squares, with like a nice little Serengeti scene on it. So you've got a river running through it, and some trees and some rocks and stuff. And your card might say, line of sight, because the whole premise of the game is you are a wildlife photographer trying to curate really lovely videos or footage. Yeah, yeah. So you have these cards that will give you VP or whatever, if you are able to create that image with a few little kind of tweaks so you can get some visual effects tokens so that you can kind of ignore one of the requirements. Yes, it's got it's got kind of not tanks exactly what some of the columns either give you VP, some give you other stuff like a visual effects token every time there is the cardboard tokens in there as well. But the animals so if your thing says, a giraffe a rhino on a hyena, are in a and wooden and I think there probably wouldn't animals line, they can have other animals mixed in as well. But they must be in that order. So that'll give you points or whatever. And as soon as that is achieved either on their turn or your turn or whatever, you kind of get it in your little video collection. So there's yet a line of sight stuff there is, yeah, get a rhino on the rocks, cheater in the water, and a hippo, hippo run on the rocks. Now, that's something you can kind of get these things. But if you've got a visual effects token, you can say, have a rhino on the grass. And you can kind of ignore that sort of criteria. So yeah, it's just basically that and you've got some money, which can take turns. So you can either move the animals around the board, you can swap them with each other. And then to move into exactly, exactly the 100. You're driving around in your jeep going get on the rocks, and you can add, you can get like extra meat to token. So if you choose their move where it's like, I don't know, move, move three spaces, you can either move an animal, three spaces or two spaces, you can move three animals one space, but if you've got a hunk of meat, you can lower it another space. So that's kind of how you can tweak it slightly. You can discover new animals and put them out on the board wherever you like. Yeah, it's just kind of a puzzle kind of game. But they're pieces. Oh my God, that's really nice that they asked, as they came out of the box, I was just like, whoa, they're just chunky screenprinted delicious little beauties honest. wherever you do, because it wasn't a screen printed. Maybe not. I don't know. The hyena though. Did reminds me of a hyena that you see on South Park. Like it looks slightly

JP: 7:25

like a badly drawn hyena. Yeah,

Becky: 7:27

but it's good. But they are beautiful. Like the pieces are beautiful. The artwork is lovely. Is such a very, very easy game.

JP: 7:35

I like that theme. Yeah, pretty cool.

Becky: 7:37

Yeah. Yeah, it is quite chilly. You know, move your stuff or achieve that thing.

JP: 7:43

Did you have toto Africa playing in the background?

Becky: 7:47

No, we missed out, didn't we? There we missed a train to

JP: 7:50

do obviously, that's what you need.

Becky: 7:53

I didn't I didn't make the most of my birthday, whatever. I won't go because we know how curly feels about certain kind of music.

JP: 8:00

Jungle music.

Adrian: 8:03

George of the jungle

JP: 8:06

Watch out for that tree.

Becky: 8:09

I love it. But it was a really great game. So that's been my highlight. You know, games played recently. Really, really good. Glad we got it. Glad we got it off the shelf. And we'll definitely play it again. Nice.

Adrian: 8:19

Yes, it's one of those that does stand off the shelf. It's got a nice cover on. As you say the chunky meatballs.

JP: 8:26

Yeah, that's a statically pleasing, doesn't it? Good.

Becky: 8:29

How about you guys,

Adrian: 8:30

recently, I have finished off the last deck from the Star Wars Unlock series. So I can't remember if I've mentioned this, but I've not heard of it, I bought the first I bought the box. So unlock is an escape room in a deck of cards, okay. And that's basically is the sort of the premise of them. And it used to be you bought one box, and it came with one deck. And that was it. But they then sort of group them into threes. So now you get three different decks. And they're normally completely different themed. And I just thought you know what, the only way I'm going to lose some money into play this with me, I didn't want to do it on my own is if I get an IP theme, and they bought out Star Wars, I'll buy the Star Wars box. And I bought it about a year ago. And just every now and again, it'll be like reg fancy doing something a bit different. The unlock series like we'll get the unlock the next unlock deck out and play through. And this is really tough because it's a game that I can't really talk about. But I want to talk about because if I talk about his spoilers too much. There's only a set number of clues. And if you talk about what happens even partway through, you'll give away some of the clues that you need to do earlier. But the gist of it is that you start off and you pick a couple of like benefits. There's like a deck of like six cards which have different benefits, and you pick three off the top, I think it is and it'll say, ah, when you're looking at the moon look to the left. And that's not an actual clue, but it will say something like that on their Android. or add five minutes to your time. Okay, and you'd start the app and you press the button and you'll turn over cards and you'll sort of look for clues on the cards or you can add to add the numbers on cards that you think go together. And you can put it in the app and it'll tell you to look for a different card in the deck or different things like that. And so you're just trying to solve puzzle after puzzle after puzzle until you get to the end and you've done it but it tells a really nice story through each Have them one of them wasn't particularly engaging as a story. Again, I don't spoil anything. But across the three, they did a really good job, I thought of giving you a story that felt Star Wars related. There's a couple of bits where you're like, they're really just trying to shoehorn this, this sort of like skin around a mechanic into a thing, like, yeah, that didn't really fit properly. So, but for the most part, they were all strong. And myself and my friends sat across from each other. And we started the thing that the app, and then was turning over cards. And for the most part, I'd say about 60 to 70%, of each of the things we had to do, we'd both be there, like working out, and we'd have similar ideas, oh, probably just need to look at this, or is there a, is there a that to look for on the card or whatever. And then, just every now and again, like one of us would be clearly staring blankly at it. Just going, I don't, I don't know what to do. And someone would go, Oh, I can see the solution to this. And you just be like, Wow, my mind is blown. And that's why I didn't want to do it on my own is because I knew that there probably be moments like, where I would get and again, too many people I think would just throw off the other way. But sort of three people I think there's probably about right. And yeah, I got through all through, we got through all three of them did it over about a year. And I really enjoyed it. And I looked at the other ones. And I thought you know what, I want another IP but there isn't any, they're not there any other right? So the exit games came out with Lord of the Rings, which the exit games is another sort of exit room in a box kind of thing. But you destroy components. And while they're cheaper. I like the idea of being able to hand the box to someone or sell it on. Yeah,

Becky: 11:59

I was just about saying what's the replayability? Or is it a case if you've done it once.

Adrian: 12:03

Apparently, one of the unlocked decks did have a destroy this card, or you had to fold the card to do it or something. But all the rest didn't, is my understanding. I may have misunderstood that. But I'm sure that's what someone was telling me. But all the others are just and it tells you what order to put the cards in. But otherwise, you I'm pretty sure you could just shuffle the cards and just keep the there's a handful that go on top that you find out originally that you turn them over to stop the game. And I'm sure as long as you kept them separate and put them back on top, you could just hand them to someone else. I couldn't replay because I now know all the answers to everything but you can get on to someone else.

JP: 12:37

That's what I do in my set. Another free deck set, I've literally resetting give it to a family formula. Never seen them since.

Adrian: 12:51

Nice, but they I thought they did a great job of. And again, this those sort of six or seven of these big triple deck boxes in by the time they got to the Star Wars one off the top my head. And I thought they had this point, probably a pretty good idea of a couple of intro puzzles just to kind of get your mind working. And there's always a few options of like, I'll try those or that hasn't worked or whatever to start with. And then the game sort of expands out and contracts and expands again, where suddenly you've got loads of cards on the table. And you're looking through all of them trying to figure out which go together? Or what's a clue for what and then suddenly we'll come right back down to two carts, or that sort of two or three cards, and then it'll expand again and contract and all that kind of stuff. And then you get to the end and normally at the end of each deck is either something really clever or just really funny. Okay, as a oh, that's yeah, that's yeah, of course that is that's hilarious, or that makes you feel really smart that you've done this one at the end. And so they've got, I felt those three decks had a really good flow through them of Yeah, of just sending you on that journey and ending on a nice point that it was just as funny or whether it was because it was a bit of a brain burner. Yeah, really enjoyed it. I do recommend you try one at

Becky: 14:02

least I'm just thinking that me and Kerley, his brother and his mom are gonna go on holiday. Later. Yeah, it can be good friends. That could be something that doesn't take up a lot of luggage space that you could if you had to sacrifice something from your luggage because you bought so many Disney mugs. You can't fit them in your suitcase

JP: 14:20

Terraforming Mars out of the box.

Becky: 14:21

Yeah, you're not leaving that behind and whatever happened. But you could, you know, that sounds like something to take up a small amount of luggage space but be being good

Adrian: 14:33

about 22 was so you can occasionally find a deal on some of the non IP ones quite often, but they tend to sort of sit between about 1718 pound and about 25 quid for the three decks. Which like when you think about it is is less than a tenner. For each each exterior night's

JP: 14:51

worth of entertainment. Yeah, really

Adrian: 14:53

tripping you.

JP: 14:55

I'm gonna talk about the Witcher The Old World because I had a call from Rob at the weekend. And he went may Can you help me sort this game out is obviously just delivered on Kickstarter. And he's he's turned up he's got all the components everywhere. And it's like there's cards on cards on cards because I don't I don't know what's the game core game? I don't know what's the modules at Almost expansion. I don't know what it says. And I don't think it was very well labelled as what was what was like, right, okay. And I'm like, This is great. This is well I step into hyperdrive. I love all that. And he just like he just getting stressed out, bless them. I hate this ship. So we helped us health. We saw it all out. So I said we're going to do and then we had a adequate game because I thought well done. Play it and come

Adrian: 15:50

over to our boxes and go again.

JP: 15:54

So yeah, so we got to play it and I had a really good time with it. I didn't really know kind of how I'd feel about the game. I like the IP. I like the Witcher IP. I love the game. The video game. You like it for different reasons. You

Adrian: 16:09

just like Henry Cavill

Becky: 16:10

I don't like him. You like him in a bath? It's it's what's the character called? Geralt I never ever like the actual real person. It's only the character that I'm interested in every single time you Mr. Darcy. Captain Jack Sparrow.

JP: 16:23

Need to play the video game Witcher 3: The Wild Hunt Very good. Okay. Yeah. Because basically you just stare at him for 60 hours eight?

Becky: 16:29

Yeah. That'd be difficult

Adrian: 16:31

I've heard there's a scene where he has sex on a unicorn. Yes. There you go. There's your tagline.

Becky: 16:42

Yeah, sex on a unicorn.

JP: 16:45

So I played, obviously, the the board game, which doesn't have any unicorns, or sex in there that I've found anyway, maybe there's a quest line. Who knows. But what what is the game the game is, I think in its core kind of mode. It's competitive. But it does have a co op mode with the Wild Hunt, which I think personally, I think will fit it better. But anyway, I'll come around to that. So the idea of the games that you all play different witches from various different schools kind of set before Garo and set before not interested those those, those kind of main characters, and you all kind of start in different areas of the continent on the map. And all the you know, the different kinds of cities, if you've familiar with the IP will be very familiar with Centro and you'll be very familiar with Novigrad and other areas and that I can't remember and you kind of just basically roaming around you're doing what you wish it does, which is kind of get information on where these monsters are, you're tracking them down, you're hopefully going to slay them and get kind of trophies from from from doing so. And that's the kind of the idea is that you get so many trophies, I think you agree before the game starts for six, or four to six. And first to get the trophies kind of wins. So you can do that by killing monsters, you can do that by actually fighting each other to defend your scores on so you can actually have a kind of PvP little combat thing. Or you can do by levelling up your Witcher in the various attributes of like combat defence, Alchemy, and your speciality of your school. And then you can kind of get to a point where one of those is topped out, you can meditate, and then that will get you a trophy and give you kind of abilities. So, yeah, the kind of the mechanics of the game is all built around your action cards, you'll kind of have a deck of cards. And there's kind of like deck building in the game that you can purchase more cards at night to do kind of better moves and better combat and things like that. But these cards are dual purpose. So there are these four locations for you to move around. Because they're like three location types of mountain forest and watery see places. Aquatic maybe rivers, maybe seas, and you spend those cards or discard those cards to move around the map and do the various actions at the different locations which might be levelling up this or grabbing a potion or doing whatever. And then so that's kind of the first phase The second phase is in the either you go and explore the cities or the wilds and that will trigger off little exploration choose this do that then like unlock a quest that you go and draw like a location token off you go and find out quests might get some gold, you might do this, you might do that, which is quite dramatic and very witchery that if you play the games again, the lobby it'll all kind of make you feel like the the VIPs there but the VA I want to talk about is actually the combat was really fun, like the way they've done combat Diceless so there's no Let's chuck dice and who wins. It's all done on the car play. And so when you initiate a fight with a with a monster, if you've tracked it and you've done the homework isn't the legwork, you'll get the upper hand on it because you're basically giving it the element of surprise rather than walking and going oh shit, it's attacking me, which you can do if you want. So yeah, the more kind of work you do, the better it is. And then you'll deck that you have is kind of shuffled together and your deck the amount of cards is your life. So which is quite an interesting thing because obviously it's a deck builder. So the more cards you have, the more vitality you have, but also means you probably got more chaff. Yeah More chatter And now you're not drawing strong attacks and things and it has a nice combo chaining system with the cards. So different cards will be like your very offensive assaults, wings, things like that, or there's there'll be signs that you use. So you have like little magic spells that you can do. Some of them be defensive, etc, etc. So the idea is that you'll play a card, and they'll have like a red strip with damage on there. And then we'll have like a yellow, little kind of box that sticks out. And that'll tell you, you can chain a yellow card off, and basically put that together. So you can then play a yellow card that might have a little Chinese. Yes, it's going to play that and you play that and you play that. And, you know, sometimes you might play 345, if you're really lucky, but obviously, you're spending your life yeah, as well. So you can't Oh, so I found that quite an interesting one. And I have not dealt with that. But combo five

Adrian: 21:11

is just two players with a deck. Yeah, each and the same thing. Your decades, your life. Yeah. And in your hand, you'll have cards with like, red circle, yellow triangle, etc. And it will say, Oh, if you, you can chain the red circle to yellow triangle or blue square, and it will tell you how much it that attack is worth in your opponent's sort of life in the initial bit, and then if you use it as a chain, so some attacks you won't open with, but then your opponent, they've got a little cheat card for you, they will know what you're opening with etcetera. And so it's a bit more sort of streetfighter, and all that. But it sounds really similar. And then they've built more of a like combo fighter as Best of three, each round takes maybe five minutes. 10 minutes. Sounds like they've taken that element and built a much bigger, wider game around. Yeah,

JP: 22:03

interesting. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I just found that whole mechanic really fun. And just going right, why don't they all go heavy now? Or do I kind of hold back to try and get my defences back up? And again, depending on what your planes depending on kind of what happens, but yeah, I found it really fun. Yeah, we kind of got through, played the game did a lot of things, and got the end for us. That's pretty good fun. But it's not the best game in the world. But I thought they did a good job with the IP. And I'm looking forward to playing again, the thing that I know that Rob's got because he's got the Kickstarter. So he's got a lot of the stretch goal modules that have been thrown out. He was so

Becky: 22:39

excited, by the way, he was just like, so he's very excited that this game was in existence. And

JP: 22:45

he's played it he's like, because this is a ROB game. This is Rob's game.

Adrian: 22:51

Coop, which is what I thought it was gonna be. Yeah, and you've not mentioned any car payment. And that's not our not yet since an expansion is

JP: 22:58

so the the Wild Hunt expansion is basically makes the game Co Op. So the wild one is this, I don't know the which IP sorry, which are fans, but there's like these, these creatures or beings that are kind of chasing you completely across the map, and you work together to try

Becky: 23:16

and watch the intro to the we started watching the third series. And I'd forgotten first and second. Yeah, I'm gonna have to wait till they're in it because the name of the name of the thing is,

JP: 23:26

yeah, it's gone. Doesn't matter. But yeah, you work together to stop them. And I can see that without the mechanisms like Rob gave me a really good fun, but I think even enjoyed the competitive element to be fair to him. And play solo does all that kind of stuff. But one of the modules that I'm really interested in is the I think it's the monster trailer module. So it adds more kind of advanced the ways that the monsters work and attack because they are quite samey. Like, they'll have different life forces and one ability that makes them a bit different. But this module replaces those cards with like bigger cards, it puts more special cards in their attack deck. So when they when those cards come out, we'll say right trigger a special attack one. And then I've seen depending on what months if you find a water hag, then that will do something different to well for something else. But yeah, it's and also you can kind of learn weaknesses of those monsters that will give you boons and special things as you travel around the map, doing your homework, speaking to the locals, etc, etc. So, yeah, it's cool. We'll play again soon.

Becky: 24:39

Getting into the meat and gravy of this episode autofill gravy, if you're a big space, let's talk about games collections. I have seen loads of selfies with a shelfie Post recently on some of the socials. And it's interesting because when someone's only got like a few games, they seem to be really apologetic about it. Like, oh, this is my meagre selection. And you know, it got me thinking does size matter? And yes, haha. Insert your double entendre here, but triple entendre Yeah. If a person plays like a small beloved selection of games three or four times a week Is that better or worse, or just different to someone who plays a giant collection, and never gets half of them to the table? Like if you've got someone that is super passionate about, you know, less terrifying was just for an example or whatever, any kind of small, small amount of games and just wants to play them lots? Are they any less of a board gamer than, you know, someone that owns half of Zatu? Or something? You know, I mean, like, who's shown into more love the ones that are? Absolutely, you know, just in love with some games, and they play them three or four times a week? Or, you know, does it matter? Due to the amount of games we own makers, more or less of a board gamer? Because I think some people feel that way? Don't know,

JP: 26:06

I think they do. There are definitely some people who feel that, you know, the number of games feels that you're more of a game of another. It's it's bollocks. In my opinion, it's like you can have two games on your shelf. And if you play those games every week, and you're having fun, you're a gamer. Yeah, that's it. Like there's there'll be more and if it's less to say about it, you're you're a gamer, independent of how many games your own? Yeah, I

Becky: 26:30

feel like it's a bit of like a gatekeeping sort of tactic. You know, people want to demonstrate their knowledge of all the games ever. But if you never play most of them in your collection,

Adrian: 26:41

and the term Are you more or less of a gamer is, is odd. And I've heard it before. But it strikes me as an odd one, because I think board games has a physicality to it, which some other hobbies don't. But if I think about let's let's abstract this to video games very quickly, is someone who only plays Rocket League is World Champion, more or less of a gamer than a streamer who's played all the games that Xbox or whatever ever had out during the 360 or, or something like that. Because you do get like you look at channels that are out there. There are channels designed purely for the moment, I've just finished hitman. There are channels out there purely where someone knows every single thing they state, people who speed run it, there's people who know every secret how to unlock everything, are they more or less of a gamer than someone whose job it is is kind of like we do where we don't really go into every light, like just sewn in on one game, we go over a little bit of everything. And it's really hard. So as long as you're enjoying it, it really doesn't matter. But also like, it's hard to say which one's more or less if someone can tell me. Like, again, we've talked about before. And I mentioned Terraforming Mars because I thought it'll lead to an interesting point. I'm not the biggest fan of Terraforming Mars, but I know enough about it to get through a game. Whereas I know like curly pretty much knows every card in that deck, right? And what's there and all that kind of stuff. And I find that fascinating that he's learned all of that and spent that time learning it and he's got good at the game of Terraforming Mars, because he spent so long and he's so passionate about it. I don't think I've ever got that passionate over a single game. Like

Becky: 28:18

on the same team. I can't get invested enough into any anything at all. I like I'm a collector of of hobbies. I'm a I'm a I'm a broad spreader. But that was going to come out really. I like to know small amounts about lots of things rather than all the things about one thing.

Adrian: 28:38

Yeah. And then that's

JP: 28:40

what shallow and wide, narrow and deep. Hey,

Adrian: 28:47

but yes, that's, that's the question, I guess. Yeah. From a from a collection point of view, whatever works for you. Really? Yes, I do find it. Odd when you know, you've got people who've No, they haven't paid gaming for several years. And their collection is so big that they'll know they'll never get around to it. But I do find it a bit odd. But at the same time, that's just my understanding of it's my feelings on it if that's what gives you joy. I know people who've got shelves full of books full of them that they will never ever read. But they've got whole sets and they can tell you about what years they were produced in America.

Becky: 29:26

That can't say about the years and I've forgotten half the plotline. But I do have them on. I do have them all on the board.

Adrian: 29:31

And if that brings them happiness. Yeah.

JP: 29:33

I think that's it. There's a different hobby. We talked about this a little bit before but there's a different hobby that's very adjacent to playing board games that's collecting them. Yeah. And it's the same with books, right? You read books, we collect books and and I think that yeah, we do both. But I think collecting gives a lot of people joy knowing that they have the thing and it's there I can look at it I can see I can maybe get the box open every now and then I will look or read for the rulebook. Like people enjoy that.

Becky: 30:02

It's an acquisition thing. Isn't it? Having having the set having the group? The thrill of the hunt? I don't know. Maybe that's what it seems often kick Yeah.

Adrian: 30:11

And at some point some games you'll you won't get out every year or every couple of years now just knowing that it's there and you'll have a good game of every once in a while. It's good, right? But Yeah, some people's collections I look at. And I think my last two big weed looks

Becky: 30:24

like a sharp I saw someone that someone had a little a little collection. So I'm just out there, I'm just beginning. This is my modest collection, it was maybe, I don't know, eight or nine games to collect keeps probably something like that. And this other person was sit there behind the collection, like they had to do the stretched arm selfie thing to get all of the and it looked like a library of squares. Yeah, it looked it was there was three sides of a wall and another shelf in the middle and you think, well, that's great. That's really what I hope you lend to these two people or because they play 14 games. Unless unless you do nothing but play games somehow for your job. You are never ever going to get even if you played, you know, two games every night. I don't think they'd get through that entire collection in any time with the bill to remember the first game they played, because it's just crazy big.

JP: 31:16

I mean, this might be the might the wrong person to kind of ask this. But like, I remember at the beginning of the hobby, when I kind of got back into it about 567 years ago, I felt like I had to own everything. I had to acquire everything and keep everything together. The rate of my collection was growing was, you know, a scary potential. Yeah, I started with that that collection of two, three and four. Car can't be self made. You know, you just bought another game. Now it's for you. That's 25% Bigger. I got another double entendre. But no, it's just, I think it's the Yeah, that kind of acquisition. You're getting lots of games. It's exciting. It's fun. It's new. But it does get to a point where you got to stop doing

Becky: 32:04

it. So do we think it's a beginners trait then this yearning for for for amounts of games? I remember feeling like that as a teenager having CDs like, Oh, they're really cool, because they've got 100 CDs. And I'm not cool, because I've got 10. Like, is it to do with? Yeah,

JP: 32:23

so cassette? No, no, I

Becky: 32:25

did ask them to Yeah, then they will never quit? Well, maybe they will call my Walkman. Is it about just collecting them then rather than actually playing? Do we just want a collection of things to show our kind of, I don't know, our allegiance to being a board gamer.

Adrian: 32:43

It's tough. It's different things to different people. Some people will, some people for space reasons will cap themselves actually quite a small number, like we've all got a cap. And most of the time, it's quite often office for sites in space. But some people will just like they'll get to the number of games they're happy with. And they'll be like, Yeah, that's cool. I don't need to spend more money or go on holiday instead of buying 24 More Board games. And so, yeah, those people are probably quite happy with their selection of games. And just playing through them repeatedly. Whereas some people, and I, quite often in this camp, just like to dive in with both feet, and get as much as you can get your hands on start with.

Becky: 33:28

I'm definitely in that camp Kerley said that I could be like that, but my tastes were fairly niche. So that kind of saves me from like, I'm not ever going to want to go out and buy all the board games because I don't like crunchy game or whatever. So the fact that I have got a fairly narrow margin of interest in it, but I do span the whole horizon of every possible game that there is. So that saves me from myself. Think in that in that instance. So what do we think the magic number is?

JP: 33:58

Well, there isn't. One is like that. I think that's the thing. There isn't a magic number that says, I think it's 43. Yeah, makes you a proper gamer.

Becky: 34:08

It's to do with how many times you play, I think so if you're only going to play the game once a year, that's probably not enough. Maybe Maybe once or twice a year. If you don't get around your collection in that amount of time. Maybe that's not maybe that's too many.

Adrian: 34:24

How often you get through your collection.

Becky: 34:26

Well, there's some I haven't played yet, but the ones I have. Yeah, but that's because I haven't excuses Becky. Yeah, well, I'm relying on Adrian to come on and teach me how to play quadruplets. So that's that's

Adrian: 34:41

all you got to teach

Becky: 34:44

whatever

JP: 34:46

you're creating barriers for no reason.

Becky: 34:49

Yeah, there's not that many that have sat on my shelf Well, the year is the most if something shelf and that's Photosynthesis. I got from UKGE in the bringing by sale last spring and by Becky buys by sale Yeah, yeah. And I haven't played that yet. But then in in my defence I bought so many that time. I don't know that anybody could have gotten through the amount that I got through. So I don't know is it about how often you play? Do you think if you play more you want to pick a collection or will not necessarily

JP: 35:22

it was really hard for me to answer this one because there are games that I've got in my collection, I'll probably only pay once a year. And I'm cool with that and they're staying. And the reason why the stain is because I don't I really liked them. But they kind of come out a game days. Okay, right. So, occasion sort of Yeah, it's it's not like that they can only come out again days, but it just seems to be the way it works. So, Coimbra, okay, is an example. You can say Game of Thrones. Yeah, what game Game of Thrones is an event game, but but it's just once a year. But yeah, it's a once a year. And the fact because it takes so long. Yeah, really. But yeah, yeah, I've got certain games that like event games like Game of Thrones, Twilight Imperium, they don't hit the table that often. But when they do, it's always good fun. The then I've got games that I Coimbra, which probably come out once a year, and I always enjoy it. I've really enjoyed that. But because of new stuff and other things that I want to play at the time, I don't want to get rid of it. And I think that's okay. Yeah. And, and I think you know, and it's come to the point where in your collection, you know, in your heart of hearts, right that some games you just go not feeling anymore, for whatever reason could be that you just add the five plays, you think I'm done with this or not like you figured it out. But I'm just I feel like it's, I'm done with it. I want to move on. And it's time for you to say tatty, bye. And I know you don't have this feeling.

Becky: 36:50

This is coming on to my next point. How do you call your collection? And I'm looking for tips, please. Because we're getting two or so we've decided our magic number is around about 100. And that's pretty much because the space we store them

JP: 37:02

is is a 50-50 split? Well, like do you have? Do you have 50? And clearly has 50? No, I

Becky: 37:09

think it's more to do with with pigeonholes on the Kallax space.

JP: 37:13

Yeah. Base is a real consideration on collection sizes, because I have that issue like everyone does. What is it? There's a definite limit. And I've been pushing that limit? Yeah, a lot to the point where I'm like, I know we've got four Kickstarters coming in, where are they gonna go? And should I get rid of some stuff? Okay, yeah, let's make space. I think making spaces is probably one of your primary key drivers for culling. Yeah. Because you've got to find space for stuff.

Adrian: 37:45

Yeah. And I, I mocked you earlier about the whole Do you play once a year thing, but I think it is a fairly good barometer, in all honesty that I have games that I know aren't. So I was like mocking the fact that it's not hard and fast rule. I don't think about getting to play it once or twice a year. But I do think that it's a fairly good gauge, like anything in life, if you don't get to it within a year. The likelihood is you don't really want maybe you don't need it as much. And it's kind of how much you play. Do you then say two years? Do you say six months? How much? Does the hobby like actually doing these things? You know, if you need it in your life every like quite regularly, then you might have a slightly bigger collection. Yeah, that's something you might you know, play the same games more the people you surround yourself with. I've got friends who have nearly no board games, because everyone around them owns all the board games. They don't have a collection at all. Very firm board gamer like they know what they're doing in when it comes to board games. So it's yeah, like, I kind of worked out I've got around the 80 number. Okay. And that's, that's roughly where my Flex is. And it's partially due to size, but partially because I keep looking at games now and going that's not getting to the table again. So I've got games coming in. But I've got games that I'm always looking at going that's not you know, we just talked to a couple of episodes ago about the fact I cold 25% of my collection all in one

Becky: 39:13

fell swoop DVS Adrian, I don't know how you managed it.

Adrian: 39:17

I'm already looking at games and going that one can go soon.

Becky: 39:20

Yeah, well, I was wondering if it fall into like a sweet spot between how much you play and how important board gaming is into your life. Therefore, your priorities of what you're allowed to take over your house. Like maybe if you've got a busy house with three kids and they're all into their own hobbies and stuff and you've got a small amount to kind of put your stuff is that how much board game takes up in your house? Or you know that I only asked because in our house we could have literally an entire board game house for board games if we wanted because there's nothing else it has to fill it didn't want it to you have the room if you really want Yeah, but it's still there is still a a you know, we have added a couple of galaxies to it to kind of fit but when there's no more room for collecting that a bit of the room. I can't imagine is getting more correct would just get rid of more games because you know, you wouldn't get to them. Yeah, that's it. So is it to do with how often you play Do you think? So? Do you think people who play more often might have more?

JP: 40:15

Yeah. I think there's a link there because you know for a A person or a couple of family who has, let's say five games in their collection, but they play once a year at Christmas. Might they're not probably going to need 80 to choose from. Yeah, right. They're like, every five years, I've played all my collection months, you know? Yeah. So I think it has to correlate, you know, I've literally gone on to be ug, when you said agents, and how many of them in my collection? I've got 80. So 80 is about my my cat exclude and expansions, people. Yeah,

Becky: 40:50

that's the very moment. It's got 5000 that Yeah.

JP: 40:53

But then a lot of my expansions are in the base game box. If I can help it. I don't like storing them separately anyway. So yeah, I think that is a definite correlation.

Adrian: 41:04

I think there's, as you say, if you put the scenario out there that you have 40 acres of house, right, but you only have a limited amount of funds, you still got decide where those funds go. So yes, you could you could keep buying and never sell. And your collection would get slowly bigger. But I think you'd find that you'd get natural, you'd get natural drop off in the fact that you'd start to have games that just stayed on the shelf. That'd be like the back of the cupboard. Yeah.

Becky: 41:34

We seem to be agreeing that if it doesn't get played within a year, you don't play enough or you've got too many games to choose from. Right. That seems to be like we've already kind of talked about,

JP: 41:43

say within a year, I'd say a bit longer maybe.

Adrian: 41:46

And again, I think there's I feel like there's exceptions to the rule. For the majority of my collection a year would work. But I would always have exceptions on there. Where I'm like, actually, this could go for I only just sold ghost stories. Which my first ever both board game that I bought. So tough call. It stayed there purely from an emotive Yeah, this is my first ever board game. It introduced me to the hobby. I loved it so much at the time. It's the hardest game I've ever played. Not not that complex, but really hard. But yeah, and only just got rid of it. And yeah, I hadn't played it for seven or eight years. Yeah, and I've got other games on the side there that funky. I don't think I've played that for two or three years. But it's a little game and it's fun. And I enjoyed it

Becky: 42:32

didn't take up much room. It's easy to justify those ones, isn't it?

Adrian: 42:35

Stay there for a little bit long. Yeah, it's the big boxes. I find that the quickest in my collection. Like I'm looking at Imperial assault at the moment. Haven't played it for a year. It is two, three biggish. It's a Calix cube basically there's a lot of boxes and yeah, that's despite the fact that there's a lot of game there that I'd like to get through that's probably one of the next ones on the coal pile purely from a how much space it takes up. So yeah, I don't know I think people will have finances people have games they love people have space limitations and it'll be kind of a mix so yeah, that that decides

JP: 43:13

it's interesting you say about how much like collapse cube percentage your the box takes up because you're right you know if you've got a game that's taken up pretty much a percent of one cube game mosaic. Yeah, it's a big box. The looks components this that near that. You always I look at it and go and get four games in there. Yeah. And you just think, oh, I can maximise the space but I can squeeze a few in and I did they those games. Seriously get on the question of scrutiny. Do I really need to keep this? Do I know is this given me the same joy as it was because a lot of these are Kickstarters.

Adrian: 43:51

Gotham City Chronicles is the one I'm thinking of it's two and it was two and a half, two and a half Calix keeps that to an hour to an hour with the expansions. Or just season one stuff. Yeah. And I really enjoyed it. And actually, I played it a lot over locked down with a solo mode that I found on BGG that is now basically made it into the actual proper printed version. But yes, turn off hallux cubes, and I enjoyed it, but not two and a half. Kalex keeps worth that's weird.

JP: 44:19

Two and a Half collects cubes worth of enjoys.

Becky: 44:21

How are we going to quantify our enjoyment now?

JP: 44:24

I think the same? Too many bones, and I think it's worth it. Right? It's one Kallax cube and I'm like, I'm cool with that. That's not going anywhere. But there are certain games on like, even 50% of a galaxy online looking at you looking at what are you doing? What are you bringing to the party? You're not bringing anything or you're going home? You're going somewhere else?

Becky: 44:44

We're going to hopefully try and play merchants coach soon. It's in our pile of we need to play that. Because it's a chunky O box

JP: 44:54

50%

Becky: 44:54

Yeah, do we like your 50% I'm gonna I'm gonna that's gonna be my new metric of enjoyment. How much we're collects cube enjoyment was that

JP: 45:02

kind of works, though? Yeah. Because it's about space. It's about replayability. Yeah,

Adrian: 45:11

because this is one of those those ones that fill up a lot of space also tend to be worth a bit of money, right? If you're not critical to the point of if I don't sell this game, I don't pay my bills or whatever and that kind of them He spent right like it don't. It sits there now as long as it needs to sit there until I decide I can sell it to fund another game I want to want to play. And so at that point, yeah, it becomes less about the money it's worth, again, assuming you're not critical for money. And yeah, that's the kind of stuff which is the

JP: 45:37

specific cases. And yeah, you gotta sell them all. You know, it's

Adrian: 45:41

like, you've got the entire Battlestar Galactica set, it's gonna go for 100 quid or whatever it is, you know, you just fancy

Becky: 45:48

any amount of colours cubes worth worth that? Possibly not.

Adrian: 45:53

Otherwise, I think it's interesting how much space can then play a?

Becky: 45:58

Yeah, it's interesting how you said sort of, you've got friends that maybe don't own any games. But, like buying the same game, as your group already owns, some people wouldn't dream of doing that. And some people are, I'm one of those people. If I know I like a game, five other people could have it, I'm still going to want it because I want to play on my terms and not worry about having to involve someone else in my if I want to play on play now. And I do not want to have to wait on someone else. I used to be like that. Used to be because you're getting rid of market over on Yeah. In fairness, I was the one that introduced the game to you guys. And then you've gone and bought your own copy. Play mine anymore. I'm

JP: 46:39

honest. There's no point me having it. So I'm getting rid of it. But to the point where Elder Scrolls chip to his new game, like cry that that was a moment of crisis that was like, Oh, I think I might need to get this. And I was like, no, stop it. Rob's getting this right, Rob's getting it, I don't need it. I've got enough blah, blah, blah. And I backed off. And that was restraint. Like a moment of growth a little bit and, you know, weeping into my pillow.

Adrian: 47:07

Rob's got it. That's true. I've not played it. You could just do it this disc for solo cars like solo, you do a lot of solo and Solo is the one thing where you it's like you can borrow games, right? But car just isn't a calendar of just so I can come around drills and play on my own. Like you can't do it.

JP: 47:23

When you're in the mood. You do it there. And then usually you don't plan are you know, on Thursday in a week. Firstly, I'm gonna go and play this game so long as you don't, for me doesn't work that way. So, but no, I think it's I've gotten to a position where I think I can, knowing that the group's got the game. So if the if it's in the group, yeah, I'm kind of cool with that now, whereas before I'd like I really like this. I want to have it. Yeah.

Becky: 47:48

My Kerley has the same like Eclipse Yeah, he loves that game, but you've got it. So he has to stop himself buying it every time he sees it. Because it's like, I don't need it. I don't need it. But I'm so surprised he hasn't bought it. Because cuz that's Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he's about having the acquisition. I think he just likes to play the game or whatever. But he knows if you're always gonna play it, he's gonna be playing it. So it's fine.

JP: 48:11

You just want to like if we enjoy something, or we ever really, really good time with the game, and you really like it that much. It's natural that you'd want to own it. Yeah. You're not natural.

Adrian: 48:23

So this is the I've spoken to Davey about now, this was the whole gallerist thing, right? So I paid The Gallerist as my first episode, and we did a whole series about it, fell in love with it. And I'm now kind of not bothered about the server as much like, I'll be honest, like, I enjoyed playing through it. But I don't know how bothered I am as a series, I will still play the games that I really enjoyed a few times. But Davey was like, I'm really looking at that game to get it. And I was like, if you buy it, I will be stuck in this conundrum of do I want to buy it for myself. But what's the point? Because every time I play, I'll probably play with you guys. And you'll have the copy of it. But I want it on my shelf. Yeah, because it's a game that I'm in love with. So I said I don't do that, like I fancy buying that haven't bought it. So like so I can so I can start from Davies point where I got a bit frustrated about it because he was like, Well, you told me not to buy a game because you were going to buy it. And now you haven't bought it. But I was in this at the time. Every time I mentioned the game, someone from the group had bought it. Yeah. And I found myself stuck in this really difficult place of but if I want to play with a different group, or wherever, or on your terms, or whatever my terms or whatever it may be, I don't have that game. And normally, it's me that's gonna have some, like, I think you guys like this, like I had quite a few of those. So I think you guys have like, really liked this game, already bought it and just said that. I'm thinking of buying it and someone else is like, oh, yeah, I just bought it now. And you're like, Oh, okay. And that's that was The Gallerist was kind of the top of that peak. Because like art, but yeah, if I don't buy it, then no one will have it. But if you buy it, I'll be annoyed.

JP: 50:01

Yeah, it's an emotional thing. It's really weird sort of

Adrian: 50:04

conflict of kind of emotions and feelings. I would say for the most part, I am not bothered generally. But there's been some times where like, within a real small timeframe, loads of people have bought the games I was just about to buy. And I thought, well, what's the point and so Therefore, I haven't bought any of the games that I really want to play. And I would probably play more if I owned it, but not a lot enough more than having it's about

Becky: 50:29

the collection isn't it is about acquiring it for yourself to it to a small degree, maybe? Yeah. So I'll go through,

JP: 50:35

like, sort of always in your collection troughs. As you said, it's on your terms. Yeah. So that's the other reasons like, you know, I want to play that game I can play when I want. I can organise the game when it suits me. Not everyone else. And there's not selfishness around it, but it's kind of like, yeah, it's that's mine. Yeah. Yeah, to organise it when I want to, because I really like it. Yeah, it's so an emotional thing. It's emotional. Like, as you were talking, I was kind of instantly transported to being in my younger years going no, I really fancier don't don't don't talk to

Adrian: 51:13

the comparison.

JP: 51:15

No, yeah, but no offence here to oh, maybe I made a move. Yeah, he's got dibs on that person, which is completely immature. And not not what we think now as adults. But still Well, that's what it reminds me. Kind of behaviour of thanks. Easy, isn't it? Yeah. Game, and I've done it mean, Davey had a thing around macaroni at the time many years ago. Nice fun. I really want it mate. And I bought it. And it's good. Because he doesn't like it as much as me.

Becky: 51:48

As well, no. Okay.

JP: 51:50

Maybe he he was thinking about buying and I was already I already fancy.

Adrian: 51:59

Telling that story. I really won't

Becky: 52:01

be offended if he then bought it as well. Would that bother? You?

JP: 52:05

Know, what I find though, is like they don't know. But it's a really good example, is sometimes when other people buy the games that you already have, and then they end up playing them a lot. Your copy then doesn't get played.

Adrian: 52:20

Talk about Whether Machine, which is fair,

JP: 52:24

and then you got to think oh, now there was still need to own this. Yeah, maybe another person in the group has now adopted this game. Do I now have to have it? It's a weird one. in its own right, when

Becky: 52:35

the shine wears off of the newness and the excitement of it, and you realise, oh, you know why she didn't need to own that possibly, maybe I just wanted to experience it a couple of times. And now I'm not bothered.

Adrian: 52:45

dependent, isn't it? I'd say weather machine was an interesting one. Because I was almost not going to suggest I don't open my copy when you said you had yours coming. Because I thought it's gonna get opened once played once. And then I'm only playing JP's copy after that. And we opened it. And I thought, well, it's signed. So hopefully it's worth a little bit more than I'm sure I will find another time to play it. But I imagined that game was set on that shelf until I decide to sell it wherever. Because of that. But strangely, that one didn't bother me as much as The Gallerist.

JP: 53:16

Yeah, because that that had a real deep connection with you. When you played it like I may I saw your face when you played it. Yeah, it's happiest I've ever seen. You skip back at the elbow. Is that good? Yeah, I mean, the the weather machine example was I didn't just buy it because Adrian Klein was on the bow. And then

Adrian: 53:41

yeah, and that was a weird situation. But it can be around, you know, we're talking about the is the shine off the apple, sometimes it's not about the shine, sort of being off the apple or whatever have it's kind of or It's yesterday's news. Sometimes it is, as you say, someone else likes it more. And I like it enough that I don't, I'm happy to go to this and play it every once in a while. And it can be on their terms. Yeah, it doesn't. I don't know about it sort of being not the latest hotness or whatever. But it can just be about if that person is going to keep that if I'm pretty sure that person is going to keep that copy. Or if they sold it I wouldn't be that sad. It's if I think they've got it and I think they might sell it at some point in the near future. Then quite often I'll question whether I keep it in my collection as well.

JP: 54:20

It's a good test. It's a good test whether you really feel the need that in your collection. You love it enough. So the art novice, I'm happy to let it go the Gugongs. Happy to let it go in as the certain games I'm like, now I'm good. I feel like I've had my time with it. And I'll let someone else fly. Yeah,

Adrian: 54:38

if I get to play again great if I don't see it, because now someone else sold it. And I'm still okay with that. It's often a good sign that you don't need it if your groups got it. I

Becky: 54:48

think that kind of wraps up our conversation about board game collections.

JP: 54:51

Yeah, there's so there's a lot to unpack in there. Like I think, my friends I'm picky collection. Yeah, that's true. But I think some of those topics we talked about we could probably unpack in the new episodes that they're quite the partner that emotive they're very much ya know, it's been fun

Becky: 55:16

leading nicely into our would you rather for this episode. Is the other guys don't know this. I've come up in my little brain and it's weird because they've been just talking about it. So let's see, let me think. So the option are, you can only ever play other people's collections on their terms and times. Or you can only own five games or maximum three Kallax keeps because I know you're going to say Too Many Bones and that's why I've limited it to three Kallax cubes.

JP: 55:44

He thought about this, I knew that I was gonna be on this.

Becky: 55:47

5 games slash 3 Kallax cubes only other people's collections on their terms and times,

Adrian: 55:55

so you never have a collection collection. And you can only play other people. Or you can have five Kallax, but you can still play other people five or

JP: 56:03

three, five.

Becky: 56:05

It's either five games or three Kallax cubes. Okay,

JP: 56:08

so three Kallax cubes with Max five games in them,

Adrian: 56:11

but you can't ever play other people's games. Playing everyone else's games and you got tonnes

Becky: 56:16

Yeah, but what if we move to

Adrian: 56:20

Korea? It's fine. I know other people

JP: 56:24

feel that to me.

Adrian: 56:27

Just left with my board game collection. I own one.

Becky: 56:33

Well, this is a thing because for me, the idea of only playing someone else's collection is so abhorrent I'm relying on them to want to play I'm relying on them to not sell the game that I really you're out of control like you're out of control and awful or you can have five of the games that you know you absolutely love your top five forever which I guess maybe would even say you could if you sold one you could buy another one. Yeah,

Adrian: 57:02

five is not enough. Yeah, that's the problem if you'd said 15 No 30 Maybe I would have been 15 games but five is not enough to find my board game

Becky: 57:23

you're gonna satisfy it with someone else's collection then that collection right well why don't we know what that says about you?

JP: 57:29

So talk me through right free Kallax five games my collection do as I wish that cycling cannot play anyone else's game people can come and play your games that's the only games that I can ever play yeah, yeah. Christ see that? You know me and the father I'm a control freak

Becky: 57:51

is why I thought the question because it's how I feel

Adrian: 57:52

about it Yeah, so that you also need the latest hotness and how would you get

Becky: 57:58

five because I in my mind I was thinking JP is gonna have too many bones so we can't just have Yeah, so basically it's four games and

Adrian: 58:08

two coloured ones

JP: 58:11

and I've got two Kallax cubes of games which are literally going to be two games in each right and then

Becky: 58:18

I think you can fit about for my Kallax cube if that if there

Adrian: 58:23

hold on a second I thought it was maximum of five games

JP: 58:26

yes Max five games you said

Adrian: 58:28

because if we're talking about you can you can put in three Kallax cubes I can fit a lot in three Kallax key

Becky: 58:36

Oh right. Okay, yeah, well three Kallax cubes. Oh, that's more of a games that can fit because I was thinking of Too Many Bones and that's why I made it three Kallax cubes I thought well you can't I can't just say to JP you can have five different games because you'll choose too many bones is one of them. Trickerion and he'll fill 3 Kallax cubes of justice five games and all his expansion so

JP: 58:57

it goes back to the space thing.

Becky: 58:59

Come on, it's fine display so you've got three Kallax cubes

JP: 59:02

settling this i as much as I would hate it. I'm going with my collection with five games. And what it would mean is that I'd have to cycle a lot and have to let go of a lot. Yeah, that'd be and it might be that I have to rebuy certain things. I fancy playing again

Becky: 59:23

like a lending library. Yeah.

JP: 59:25

Bye bye Anachrony I'll miss you sue and then six months later a fancy plate and acronym lifted reacquire it to get rid of something else so it'd be this yeah lending library of in and out system forever buying and selling board games not great but to sit down with those

Adrian: 59:42

so much money?

JP: 59:44

Yeah, don't worry.

Adrian: 59:46

It is but buying high because I suddenly

JP: 59:49

thought of me going right I'm now having nothing. And I'm now beholden to waiting on other people to put the games I want to play in that you might sell the bits might be put back in the bags wrong as well. I mean, I don't because they're not my copies. I don't care. That doesn't bother me when it's done my copy. It's more the Yeah, it's more the fact that these games will be scheduled and other might be busy.

Becky: 1:00:13

When they've sold it. Oh, I got it. Like why did you get rid of that? Carry on? No, my friend bought it. I think you Spend

JP: 1:00:22

my collection so they're really small collection and just make do and go constantly because it's not enough for me

Adrian: 1:00:33

What are you making?

Becky: 1:00:33

I have to have my own games it's gonna have to be the three Kallax cubes for me has to be to be all right well if you can now I'm not going to say five games but does it change if you can fit an entire three Kallax cubes does that change it? Because okay you can probably get a lot more games but they're going to be the small kind of insignificant ones aren't they? And I don't mean that rudely in significant I don't mean that rudely when I say insignificant ones but you small box games and just not as meaty I know Adrian likes a good old meeting

Adrian: 1:01:03

some thinking right so brass Birmingham's a thin box

JP: 1:01:06

is a good size but

Becky: 1:01:07

you cannot do take them out of their original boxes none of that the games in NO NO

Adrian: 1:01:14

NO right so if you so I'm just trying to work I'm trying to work this through right so Brass Birmingham's a small box Century is a fairly small box Yeah, that wouldn't

Becky: 1:01:22

so not fit on my Kallax if I was only fit one up in the bin that's not going to

Adrian: 1:01:28

fit one behind the other get Barenpark and I wouldn't like it because I can't see all my games like nicely neatly if this is made the rules this is the rules I can fit bound part behind sentry column edition. Brass Birmingham's only like an inch thick or something like that. And you can start and get yeah, I've got a village street and Moon from Sinister Fish Games. They stack on top of each other. Yeah, they're only like an hour each decent size. Like they're a decent ish game that hold on. They're a decent weight of game for how small a box they are. Those stacked on top of each other. So all three of those will fit in a Kallax cube but about two inches away. I mean, filled up Kallax cube yet and I've already got 123456 games in it. Yeah. I reckon if if the rules was three Kallax cubes. I might be tipped that way. If it's just not just not enough. It's just that no, I'll be beholden to which to be fair is pretty much how this group is for me. Anyways, I'll wait for you guys put stuff up. And if I like the look of it, I'll sign up for it. I don't host it's very rare that I bring a game round of mine. You guys play it. That's what I do with other groups. Is I own all the games to other groups. Yeah, so a lot of them don't own a lot of games or when they do their travelling and maybe don't have the need. So I house a lot of games for those groups. Whereas this group that I play with, I'm normally beholden to what you guys think consumer of it. Yeah. So So that's I'm fine with that side of it. Yeah, definitely go make something

JP: 1:03:00

good on that. Yeah. Think about one of those in two minds. And then the control freak

Becky: 1:03:16

when you're in the end, and we're on our penultimate turn, so what are you looking forward to Adrian thrown out to you

Adrian: 1:03:23

looking at me, and I'm gonna talk about sank boardgame adjacent. So games workshop recently announced that they're bringing epic back so for those who don't know so Games Workshop produced Warhammer 40k and Warhammer that 28 to 32 mil models that you paint up assemble paint I don't do a lot the painting so I have a great armies, as they call it just bare plastic. And then you fight other armies against them is the general premise. Epic. Each of the models is about eight millimetres high. Oh, wow. And then you put like five or six of them on a base. Okay. And it was a game that like Terrence, look at me with my Warhammer. Religious in Warhammer.

Becky: 1:04:05

Yeah, but it's kind of small isn't it makes me think of it. You can get these really small because I put together somebody's Terran an army and there was lots of very small little pieces. I mean,

Adrian: 1:04:14

maybe a what they called something swarm, you get swarms on the base, which

Becky: 1:04:20

like, I remember sticking lots of little things on one square thing. Yeah,

Adrian: 1:04:24

so that's still 40k That's still a big size. They're just very small things. Whereas this is taking the bigger things and scaling them right down so that a normal, like 32 mil model is about eight millimetres. And it was a system I never played the first time round and was really intrigued to play. And the most fun I have building and painting is at that scale. So there's a world war two game similar like cool Flames of War, which is all sort of eight millimetre models and it's the only time I've ever really stuck to painting something for like a decent amount of time that's loving finished the army but that tells you how rubbish I am at painting up armies. And yet it's it's the moment I say most of our listener base will probably not care about this and I can see guys already glazing over at me talking. So I'll keep it sort of to the point but they've just announced it. I thought it was coming. They've announced it fully now it's out next month and I'm really excited. I've bought They've got some models out that will go with this game. And everyone is clearly on a mission to go out and buy it all because I've been hunting like, as many like little friendly local gaming stores FPGAs for whatever I can get my hands on, because it's out of stock in loads of places a lot of it. So I'm out there buying it all and putting it together at the moment all in preparation for a game that doesn't even come out for like, well, but by the time this episode comes out, it'll just come out. Yeah, but time of recording, it's a good few weeks off. And yeah, I'm truly excited. I like that scale. It reminds me of, so it's Horus Heresy, which Games Workshop if they're not known for models are probably known for their Horus Heresy series of books. It's like a 3040 odd series of books all about the rise of Space Marines and the prime marks and all that kind of stuff. But I haven't read, I think I've read five of them, six of them. And I'm just really listening through now and hoping to go further into the series. But I love that all the law around it anyway, when I read the books or not, I love all the law. And I like the scale and that of the game always looked so interesting. And the last time they really bought it out was when I was about I want to say about maybe 1716 was the last time I think they bought out. So I'm just like really sort of a got those sort of rose tinted glasses. The first time I was playing those kinds of games, and beach really excited for that scale in that system. So that's what I'm really looking forward to. But yeah, there's strange at the moment, there's not a lot of board games out there that are really like making me go through that are like brand new to buy out there. There's a couple but nothing really tempting me. Whereas that is kind of got me

JP: 1:06:57

hooked on the hooks and about you JP, not game related, or shock. Not game related at all. I'm actually looking forward to my holiday. My proper big holiday. Holiday, we go to Florida, and I've not been to Florida since 11 years ago. That was for my wife's 30th When we went last Guess I'm sorry. She loves it. So and then thing before that was many, many years. I think the first time ever went off 17. So you know different kinds of holidays. Yeah, definitely. I'm really looking forward to taking the kids going around all the parks doing other things. Obviously, Galaxy's edge is a new thing for me.

Becky: 1:07:43

I'm going to be out on new stocks.

JP: 1:07:46

gonna know what's hit you coming out with a lightsaber? It's gonna

Becky: 1:07:49

happen. So you could buy$250 And yeah, well, I think,

JP: 1:07:54

you know, it's gotten in my little souvenir room. So yeah, I'm just looking forward to just experiencing it and getting back there and just, yeah, doing all the stuff and the kids are gonna be so

Becky: 1:08:03

excited for you. I'm so excited for you. You're just gonna love it.

JP: 1:08:08

Yeah, so we've got two weeks there. We're gonna do all the universal we're gonna do all the Disney parks. We've got our own like, kind of filler place for the pool. So just gonna be lush. It's gonna be great. You and Robin? Yeah, we're going with Rob and Amy and kids. Yeah,

Becky: 1:08:24

you're just gonna have a really nice time well, things are gonna take if you have to take three games oh yeah take Oh,

JP: 1:08:29

well yeah, we'll probably take Rob on our Star Wars Deck Building game yeah, we've enjoyed that as C player small bar Yeah, it's very good. Quick ish kind of 3040 minute game enough in it's a bit meaty and Star Wars it's just like yeah, ma'am. I'm gonna do this so yeah, probably take that I might take Radlands because Josh will play that and I think Robin enjoy that as well. I've gotten anything else that had nothing to beg saboteur was what you talked about. Yeah, last time that kind of thing. That's probably good showers be eight of us. And actually, saboteur can play or like so we can have games like that. Lovely. It'll probably go the usual stuff really? Yeah, the usual stuff. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. You need to say Disney game. No, no, I

Becky: 1:09:22

mean, villains is too big to take a bit yeah, it's

JP: 1:09:25

a big box you could condense into a bag combine

Becky: 1:09:27

Disney uno when you're out there just just to say because I audio that day.

JP: 1:09:33

Yeah, no, can't wait. That's think time this gets released to be in a couple of weeks or less. I've got my release dates wrong probably. might already be the about you.

Becky: 1:09:47

Mine is also going on holiday. Me and Kerley and his mum and his brother are all going away together and I'm just really looking forward to the evening spent in the hotel just kind of playing really easy for play games together. I think I'm definitely going to get one of those. The game the Star Wars game you unlock that? I think sounds just right.

Adrian: 1:10:06

But don't get it then you just have my copy. I'll reset and hand over to you.

Becky: 1:10:10

All right, thank you very much. Wow, Adrian said it came I was going to buy it. I'm not going to buy it. Now. That's never happened before.

JP: 1:10:16

This is quite reverse

Adrian: 1:10:17

Are you so I'll lend it to you. You won't like it. And you'll buy it for yourself because you don't.

Becky: 1:10:25

I couldn't lend it. I could I could borrow this because it's for it's for duration. I could do that either way you couldn't. Because then Kerleys mom will want to be involved, but she wouldn't probably want to play. Yeah, so I think kind of possibly working out to get him. I think she'll really enjoy that. And then,

JP: 1:10:44

you know, with that kind of game, if someone's like, you know what, just gonna take a backseat. You don't break the game? Yeah, it's like, Well, that'll

Becky: 1:10:53

be really good. And things like Zuuli. She loves me. So that'll be cool. And maybe just take some games that the three of us can play, I would probably have to try and fit Klimkin. But Clank Catacombs, it's just a bit of a big box. Luggage, isn't it? But Kerley's brother really like that? And I do too. And I think Kerley's mom might be able to get involved a little bit. So that might be a Yeah. And just kind of. Yeah,

JP: 1:11:16

neat. There's travel bags. Yeah. components in the box. You're taken. Yeah, take the week.

Becky: 1:11:22

We did that when we took splendour. And we took century spice road and another couple of games all in one. In the Splendour box. I think

Adrian: 1:11:33

I 3d printed all my travel versions. So my travel boxes are actually set. Some of them like the Splendour Marvel. The travel box I 3d printed is sat in this blender. So it's on the shelf in a nice Splendour. But it's sat inside just a just a very plain travel, 3d printed books that I've made. That's how I do often and you can just chuck that in the suitcase.

Becky: 1:11:55

So we don't we, we didn't really have holidays as kids as a kid. Like we used to come to Taunton on holiday. Great. I mean, it was really it was great. But we never had big family holidays, because there's not groups of us. I'm just really looking forward to that kind of family holiday. Yeah, that's gonna be really, really nice. That's very cool. Yeah. So that's it. That's me really cool. The final term beckons, and we wrap up the episode by encouraging you to recommend us to a friend if you've enjoyed the show, you can reach us on all the usual platforms, send us emails, and like and subscribe to your heart's content. Thank you all for listening. And until next time, whose turn is it? Adrian's with his three Kallax cute and he's gonna bark once again