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Episode 46: The madness of mansions

February 21, 2024 Loaded Dice Gaming Group Episode 46
Episode 46: The madness of mansions
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Episode 46: The madness of mansions
Feb 21, 2024 Episode 46
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Mansions of Madness was one of the first games which brought Tambo into the tabletop hobby and the Whose Turners don their investigative gear and go exploring some mansions whilst trying to reduce the horror throughout the episode...we'll see if any of them make it through

FIRST PLAYER: Tambo
OTHER PLAYERS: Chris P, Becky & Kerley

OVERVIEW
In this episode you'll learn:
- that Kerley has finally got his own copy of Eclipse Second Dawn of the Galaxy and has finally gotten it to the table
- Tambo is trying to control his hunger within Marvel Zombies after playing it with Rob recently
- about Becky's addiction to Ticket to Ride on BGA...it's all about them trains
- about Chris' 2 day preparation of sorting out his Marvel Champions collection
- about the game that started it all for Tambo "Mansions of Madness" and also how well will you do at the mini quiz at the end...no rewinding now ;-)
- whether the Whose Turners will choose to play their least favourite game before they play their favourite game or never play their favourite game at all.

LINKS REFERENCED IN THE SHOW
N/A

EPISODE CHAPTERS
0:00 - TURN 1 - Player Count
0:41 - TURN 2 - Let's Talk About Hex
0:51 - Kerley - Eclipse Second Dawn of the Galaxy
3:52 - Chris P - Mansions of Madness (swotting for the episode)
5:19 - Tambo - Marvel Zombies
9:06 - Becky - Ticket to Ride on BGA
11:40 - TURN 3 - Main Event: The madness of mansions
14:02 - How Mansions of Madness plays
20:04 - Our favourite scenarios
31:55 - The investigators of Arkham
39:32 - The interesting mechanics of Mansions
48:02 - The potential downsides of the game
52:11 - The investigators are in time...for a Mansions of Madness quiz
59:02 - TURN 4 - Would you rather...always play your least favourite game before your favourite game or never play your favourite ever again
1:06:35 - TURN 5 - Penultimate Turn: What's Coming Up
1:06:45 - Becky - The Devon Board Game Weekend & Apirary
1:08:39 - Chris P - Getting more Marvel Champions to the table
1:09:11 - Kerley - The Last Kingdom, Paladins of the West Kingdom & Orleans
1:10:20 - Tambo - Watching "The Creator" on Disney+
1:11:26 - TURN 6 - The Final Turn

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It's your turn...to click here to send us your comments on the show

Mansions of Madness was one of the first games which brought Tambo into the tabletop hobby and the Whose Turners don their investigative gear and go exploring some mansions whilst trying to reduce the horror throughout the episode...we'll see if any of them make it through

FIRST PLAYER: Tambo
OTHER PLAYERS: Chris P, Becky & Kerley

OVERVIEW
In this episode you'll learn:
- that Kerley has finally got his own copy of Eclipse Second Dawn of the Galaxy and has finally gotten it to the table
- Tambo is trying to control his hunger within Marvel Zombies after playing it with Rob recently
- about Becky's addiction to Ticket to Ride on BGA...it's all about them trains
- about Chris' 2 day preparation of sorting out his Marvel Champions collection
- about the game that started it all for Tambo "Mansions of Madness" and also how well will you do at the mini quiz at the end...no rewinding now ;-)
- whether the Whose Turners will choose to play their least favourite game before they play their favourite game or never play their favourite game at all.

LINKS REFERENCED IN THE SHOW
N/A

EPISODE CHAPTERS
0:00 - TURN 1 - Player Count
0:41 - TURN 2 - Let's Talk About Hex
0:51 - Kerley - Eclipse Second Dawn of the Galaxy
3:52 - Chris P - Mansions of Madness (swotting for the episode)
5:19 - Tambo - Marvel Zombies
9:06 - Becky - Ticket to Ride on BGA
11:40 - TURN 3 - Main Event: The madness of mansions
14:02 - How Mansions of Madness plays
20:04 - Our favourite scenarios
31:55 - The investigators of Arkham
39:32 - The interesting mechanics of Mansions
48:02 - The potential downsides of the game
52:11 - The investigators are in time...for a Mansions of Madness quiz
59:02 - TURN 4 - Would you rather...always play your least favourite game before your favourite game or never play your favourite ever again
1:06:35 - TURN 5 - Penultimate Turn: What's Coming Up
1:06:45 - Becky - The Devon Board Game Weekend & Apirary
1:08:39 - Chris P - Getting more Marvel Champions to the table
1:09:11 - Kerley - The Last Kingdom, Paladins of the West Kingdom & Orleans
1:10:20 - Tambo - Watching "The Creator" on Disney+
1:11:26 - TURN 6 - The Final Turn

We're LIVE at the UK Games Expo this year and we can't wait to bring one of our episodes to our listeners in person.  We're running the show on Friday 31st 13:30 - 14:30 in the Dice Room (Piazza 4).

You can find out more information about the show right here.
https://www.ukgamesexpo.co.uk/events/1415-whose-turn-is-it-anyway-live-podcast/

Support the Show.

SUPPORTING THE SHOW
- Support us on Ko-Fi

ENGAGING WITH THE SHOW
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Tambo:

Welcome to whose turn is it anyway a podcast all about our gaming group. And our board game shenanigans. I'm Tambo your current first player and I'm joined by Becky's here again and

Kerley:

crispy. Kerley

Tambo:

well done. Hi guys. How's everyone doing? I'm good. Thank you my friend. Yeah could make it Yeah. A bit tired this work

Becky:

but good deal on

Tambo:

that and been very busy long day. Okay, so get on with them. Let's talk about hex right so let's talk about hex and then you want to go first.

Kerley:

Okay, first of all, you played Eclipse again recently, I've just bought my own copy previously, I've only played JP so second arm for the galaxy, which is the new edition. Yeah, absolutely loved it again. We played it three player, because yeah, we just kind of Tambo came round and my brother was round. And we thought, what should we play kind of thing. And there were three of us. So it was

Tambo:

almost no surprise because I was actually gonna be me new. Yeah. A couple little to play games. Yeah. And then yeah, your brother was there. Oh, nice. Yeah,

Kerley:

so we can flip out a big game big a big boy pants. Yeah. But yeah, so Eclipse. We didn't know if it'd work at three player. But actually, it was really good. Yeah, um, I would say probably a little bit less worry. Yeah, mon, because you've got a bit more room maybe. I mean, it did end up kicking off between you pair Yeah, that was only because he was playing the descendants and being a bit fast and loose for your territories when

Tambo:

he was he came in very quickly. Runway area wasn't happy about it. And it made me stop spreading out a little bit. Yeah. So I had to Yeah, I had to get worried to do anything to be able to get military so

Kerley:

for those of you who don't know descendants are a class of basically for their friends with all of the natural enemies you find on the border the descendants of the people you come across normally war. So Jay was just spreading out not having to worry about all these enemies he was finding because yeah, he's he was related

Tambo:

to exploration ability was good as well. You could draw two tiles. And look, pick one, which is awesome. Because you normally pick one and you have to have all you don't use it. And that's it. Yeah.

Kerley:

So for those of you who don't know, anyway, we're going into a little bit of detail. But Eclipse is a fantastic game, but it's toyline period, but a bit quicker, more based around the technologies, but it's space space exploration, slash taken over planets and all those kinds of things. But with a, I say, the unique selling point that you get to make your own ships with the technologies that you make and research those awesome. And reminded how good it is. Totally works as a three player. Yeah, so just really enjoyed it. So yeah, yeah.

Tambo:

Good. Good time. I lost like a blast. I did a bad time. No, I Yeah. I did often. It's great fun. It was fun. I did one bad move at the end, because your brother was in the middle was an. And I either went in the middle go to left which the forefeet piece I just watched in the middle. And the last second to last turn. I should have gone left. Yeah. So I thought about this when I got back and I think I went left, I would just left Kerley open to get the middle, because j would have come to me. No,

Kerley:

but that's the point. I think J would have stayed in the middle, you'd have to defend from me. If he'd have left, I would have added so he'd have stayed in the middle. Therefore, rather than taking on a fight there was I think you will 5050 and be fair to you. But I think you did definitely one the other one. So

Tambo:

it's one of them. He did amazing role where you're for six years. You

Kerley:

know, he was windy for Chris the first row and then he tried the equivalent of four sixes.

Tambo:

Honestly, it was amazing. It was 13 damages. It was good. Yeah. Great. Yeah,

Kerley:

it's a great game. Yeah. Um, so yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed that. And I'm going to be looking to get that in over the myriad events we've got over the next few months, so I'll be bringing it along. So great to break it in. Finally, and thanks for coming.

Tambo:

Yeah, no worries. Thanks for hosting. Brilliant. So Chris, what have you been up to?

Chris P:

Oh, me in preparation for today. Last week we played Mansions. Yes, we did. And I love this game. And I don't get to play often enough. It had been probably about four maybe five months since I played it before that. I really needed to play again. Just remind me actually how the game works and remember it absolutely loves this game. So

Tambo:

it was it was it was good. Really.

Chris P:

What did we do? We went up against a bunch of zombies. Zombies and it was fantastic.

Becky:

How many plays was through

Chris P:

me you or me tambo and make Locky joined us as well, which was fantastic. He didn't know before. So brandy for him.

Kerley:

I began when he

Chris P:

really enjoyed it. Yeah, there's always one person who gets completely knocked over. This time. It was me. I was fine with it. I was like, every role I made was either a miss or just shockingly was just shy of what I needed. I got stuck in a shed for a while off the game. Literally a shed that was dark and had two zombies in it and I was getting mauled to death so you can spend clues. Clues can do anything. So it was great fun. I loved it. Eventually I got I broke free and I was Do you actually

Tambo:

hear at the end? I did. I actually did some massive damage

Chris P:

against the big boss and then it was fine. It was fine but I think I wouldn't have been mad me once and left do it and we did it always very fun so yeah, I was pretty

Becky:

sure we'll come back to that in a minute. Yes,

Tambo:

yes definitely. Right so I'll go next. I got to play yesterday which was very excited about Marvel Zombicide now I know probably around the table not too big fan was on beside but I mean Chris he is if you know somebody slight fan, this is a bit different because you're playing as the zombies because you actually the zombie hero. Right so there's six Marvel's on big characters you've got Iron Man, the Hulk Captain Marvel, Captain America Deadpool and the Wasp so they're all the six zombie heroes so generally in the zombie side there's the rules are basic wasn't their same your attack you open doors as actions you move and you interact with items and normally you get to search but this one gives you a zombie traits which is much more fun you can do at any point and just get a zombie trade which helps you boost the different mechanic and this is that you get hungry as you're a zombie you've got to eat so what happens is or you get them in the swarms of SHIELD Agents that come in the board and you've got to eat them kill them. Okay and do your objectives and this fun so on the top bar you've got your health which is normal and then right you've got your hunger level so you start off hunger level one every time you start your turn on the character you go one hunger level and you only don't get any different weapons in this one you all you get is to get your superpower action which is like So Captain America frozen sealed and and then you got to devour action which means you eat someone so for you you always have like three dice say three dice and a special action but if your hunger levels one you get an extra dice for your hunger level. Okay, so if you're like aggressive and it goes up the force so when you get to level two three get three more dice when you're three but you're on the dice that the blanks not blank because this is a desex it's like a little bite mark which means that if you get well that your hunger goes up and if you hit level four, you go ravenous, so all you can do is move and then all we can do is eat you have to eat someone or you just devour but if you're still ravenous at the end of turn, you need to help like a punishment if you don't, you don't need your hunger is a good thing but it's always punishing you if you don't get if you don't eat and that's really cool mechanic and so really think about your turn and how you can do it because you just I kept getting really hungry and die.

Chris P:

Hell is definitely

Tambo:

the thing that made me laugh you get bystanders that come into it as well which are all the other little heroes you get like Agent Coulson you get Bob for either accomplish a Bob It's from somebody Deadpool you

Becky:

get to eat Tony Stark's girlfriend. Possibly there

Tambo:

was small we didn't see or pepper whatsoever. He got Jim Avalonian Jameson's it.

Becky:

He came in as a character noticing how just go away,

Tambo:

but my friend who has seen his little aunt may come along, and it's not the fit, aren't they in the Spider Man, it was the old little arm they just turned up on the board. Little handbag like this, I think right next to Tony Stark

Kerley:

snaffle. Yeah.

Tambo:

Snap, when you get their call ability, and you see put on your boss you've eaten, and you put that card on your board, and she gives you an ability throughout the game. And then you can change it, and you get five or six people in wastelanders. And stuff is just such different. It's really good fun. The sound good. Yeah. What's

Chris P:

really to complain about Uncle Ben.

Tambo:

She can hear one wound be described as one you certainly. But he is always good and somebody so you don't very rarely see it. So it's really good for me. I've really enjoyed it. That's fantastic. Yeah. So that was long. So that's my experience. You've probably gathered

Kerley:

that some people didn't loads on beside on one of them. But I think that's mostly because I've played with somewhere and alpha gamer in that, right. And I always rail against Alpha gamers, because I just I just do my thing anyway. Yeah, it makes it really uncomfortable. I really want you to do, we should be doing that. Thing kicking some doors, and you know, you can

Tambo:

always make a suggestion, but that's about it, isn't it? You shouldn't do

Becky:

it. No one tells Kerley what to do. That's the first, you're never gonna get what you want to get out. Tell him what you want him to do?

Tambo:

No. Okay, cool. So back to what we've been up to.

Becky:

I've been playing an absolute boatload of Ticket to Ride On Board Game Arena. Okay, I keep playing it time after time after time, because it's only about an hour, 10 minutes. So you can get an entire game done really,

Kerley:

really quickly. It was longer than that. There is a little bit I think,

Becky:

well, it says an average of nine minutes when you're playing it, maybe it's a bit longer than playing it. But the turns are capped at like less than two minutes. Yeah. Well, I think from the start of the other person finishing they're going you've got two minutes. So you've got to be really quick. You've got to turn these you know, turns around really quickly. And yeah, keep losing I've won a couple of times, but I just I just really love it. Which version is it? So it's not like lots of different theories. I think that might I'm going to blame for that for some of my failures because the regular game you can pick two cards right you pick out of you get 3d destinations and you have to pick one. Whereas in the I think it's called something along the lines of Ticket to Ride Mega 1910 edition, you know over Ticket to Ride fans are screaming at the speakers now going, it's not called that you idiot, but I can't remember it's called I've only seen it on BGA, which don't look at the box. So with that, I think you'd pick more destinations at the start, or it's a little bit different. And you don't the way I'm playing it. You don't get to pick what type you're playing. You just play a game of it. But I really like it because really simple. And I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I keep thinking, Oh, I think I've got this one. Yeah, I think I've got this one. And then it all just goes horribly wrong. And I end up with like, 80 points, and they get 140. It's like, oh, oh, dear, but I have one a few times. And so we seem to be really nice people that play. Yeah. I've never ever had any kind of issues with, you know, people coming on the chat and be sad pair of people. Yeah, it's Yeah. So the other people? Well, I think is yes, because it comes with the language they speak or not or whatever. But the only interaction I've had is me typing in Gg, which sounds good. And then then typing in Gg or whoever all of it does at first. That's it. I've not had any other interaction with them at all. But it's just a nice, quick, simple. It's like a little puzzle. And I like it.

Tambo:

I really like tickets. Right? Most of my parents I think we've been family, my brothers. So

Becky:

yeah, we're hoping to get Kerley's mum playing, I think she'll like it. I like the board. I like the little tactile trains. Of course, when you play on GA, you don't get any of that. But I think it's yeah, I really like it.

Tambo:

Cool. Awesome. Alright, let's get to the main topic then shall we? So let's move on to the main topic. Today we're talking about the madness of mansions. So we're talking about the Mansions of Madness second edition version. This reason I've done this episode is because it is one of the first games I played when I joined the group. And I've played the first edition first with JP before we mentioned it, but back in other podcasts, and then I thought, well, this is interesting. And when football my first game was sort of second vision, I thought I'll buy it and yeah, I think from a strategic reasons, it's just one of my favourite games. I've had a lot of time playing it. I've paid a lot of times. So yeah, so mansions is a game in the Arkham Horror universe in set. I think it's set in 1926. I think this

Kerley:

alternative, isn't it alternative history kind of thing? Isn't it? The outcome, is it? I believe

Tambo:

so? Okay, I didn't specifically say but I kind of good. And I thought it generally comparo said about this in designating 26. Like that kind of era. But yeah, and as published in 2011. So it's an old game. It's been out for a long time. I always remember seeing when I went to the board game, Expo people were still buying it. So it's obviously quite a popular thing sort of covered people carrying it around with them. Yeah. So basically what you are, you're a bunch of investigators, and you go in and each scenario is based in a mansion, generally, generally, there are some other ones. There are some newer ones which aren't in the mansion, but most of them generally do end up going into a big kind of house,

Chris P:

that Vichy house and estate, a mansion that you pick fancy words

Tambo:

and stuff in and obviously it will contain could be a murderer. Could be cultists, it could be zombies. It's all got all the different kinds of things for witches, monsters, and lots of different puzzles. Yeah, yeah. So that's basically what mansions is. So as far as we know, there are five main expansions added to this game. It's their their core, one school beyond the threshold. Streets of Arkham Sanctum Twilight, horrific journeys and the path of the serpent, which is the latest one. Well, that's the last one. This one released? Yeah. And there's two other expansions that were in the first edition expansion. You need the first edition copy to play it. Which is for forbidden alchemy and Call of the Wild. And there's 22 scenarios altogether.

Becky:

Oh, wow. I didn't realise it was that many? Yeah,

Tambo:

I count them. 123 Yeah. So yeah, we can talk about how the game plays. So basically, it's a dungeon crawler made from an app

Becky:

is amazing. Yes. It's amazing, really amazing.

Tambo:

So the app definitely does a really good job of randomising it all different types of ways. Even

Becky:

if you play the same scenario, it's it's not going to be the same. Exactly the same thing. Is it because it changes the monsters and all those things.

Chris P:

It moves the tiles around on the map where they will the items will be the enemies that spawn their attacks. Yeah, literally everything about it is

Tambo:

so you play at once in the play game. It could be all different kinds of place different places. Yeah. And there's always different endings to scenarios as well. There's different scenario endings for I found,

Becky:

we usually dice Yeah.

Tambo:

But there are some different ones. I think a couple of them. Yeah. So we're just gonna get a deep dive into these different scenarios and our experiences on them. Okay. So yeah, I mean, Chrissy, you were talking about one earlier. That one was there. Finally, a good scenario was called the dearly departed first edition of one of my favourite ones. It's a five star. So it's really hard to have

Chris P:

this. Apparently the hardest difficulty once obviously, the ratings are five anyway, but find that five is pretty hard.

Becky:

Is there any way that you could play this without the first edition? Could you kind of cobble tiles together? Or

Tambo:

you think if you can, I think there's because I can't play that the other one, go to the wild. I couldn't play the call of the wild because I don't have the expansion part for it from the first edition. But I think it's only like one time. Okay,

Becky:

so you kind of I guess you could sort of

Chris P:

you can curl it together. So we were like halfway through the game the other week. And it's literally like, we couldn't find a tile for love nor money. And then we just like, right, this tile looks similar. It has the right sort of splitting on it. Let's just use that one. And then about 20 minutes later, we found the tile. We're looking for other tiles, so then we just couldn't just swap the back in and it was fine. So jumping

Becky:

in, we're quickly problem that can be a bit of an issue. Can't it finding the right tile? Yeah, I have to say, you know, I'm sure there's a way of organising it better than I've done it.

Tambo:

There is a very good way of organising actually, because you always use the I call it a feathered symbol. As an argument, it's not forever, but it's a tentacle tentacle that's not the feather

Becky:

exactly the same way you mean and I always Yeah,

Tambo:

I always get those tiles stacked up ready to go because I've always wanted to generally always use Okay, and then on the app, you can, you can go into the collection of the one you use and say if you did that, we have to activate the first edition expansion. Yeah, you click on it, and they'll just put those two tiles you only ever gonna use that tile with a key symbol unless you have them ready to go. So you're not digging for all the tiles but if you click on all of them and have more activated it will go through all the time. Okay, well that's on all the creatures and all the monsters

Becky:

top tip for everyone then don't click on more fun

Tambo:

easy don't click on more if you want to put another one in just so you can use the other characters from each expansion Yeah,

Chris P:

but it also bring in all the enemies and stuff from those expansions as well. The other thing so if you just want to go up against base on zombies and cold lists, and then you add in the snake people from the funnel from the lazy expansion that will happen a few randomly generate the enemies.

Tambo:

Yeah, that's that's the fun part, by the way. Yeah,

Becky:

that was the first game. I think I've met you Tambo actually, Round your house playing Mansions. However many years ago, that was. And I remember thinking, Oh, well, this is this is a board game. This is Yeah. It's so different. Isn't it from so many awfully

Kerley:

nightmare since

Becky:

my bank balance had been a nightmare. Yeah, there's so many different. It's so different from a regular board game that you might think of. If you don't really know much about board games, it doesn't look, you know, you haven't got one board in the middle with pieces. You're continually creating new things. And I really, really liked that about it. Yeah,

Kerley:

I was gonna ask you definitely this mostly for you to I guess. The main difference between the second and the first edition is the fact that you don't have a traditional dungeon master. In d&d terms. That's right. Yeah. So in the first edition, you had a bad guy, a player who had to play is the person controlling the monsters rarely, right? So the second edition, it's all automated via the app. So that's the main difference. That's the exactly right. So I haven't played the first edition. So

Tambo:

I played the first version twice. I think, I think that they want JP we play it twice. A JP is actually the two experience I had. The Dungeon Master is OP'ed. Right. And the first one, it's really hard to do it. It's even harder than the second edition in my opinion, because the second edition is hard, isn't it? It was great fun. Chris remembers it.

Chris P:

I loved it. Ben, Ben. Ben, the DM on that on that map?

Kerley:

It sounds like it's fun for the person in charge of the monsters. Yeah, it was much fun for the players. No, no,

Chris P:

it's definitely nothing give it to the players just run around the map and a lot of great fun.

Becky:

So a lot of pressure to put on one person though, isn't it being the kind of curator of the game I don't think I would like that experience. So I'm I'm personally glad that the second edition changes that completely. Yeah, definitely takes that. That kind of level of responsibility way.

Tambo:

Yeah, definitely a setup as well. But I didn't set up JP that when you come in, there's a lot of stuff. There. Wasn't a lot there on first edition. And the app just takes that away. And I think that's really good. Really good

Becky:

sound effects in the app as well. Yeah, I remember going around your house and you connected it to maybe like your soundbar speaker. Yeah. Really loud. Yeah. And I remember thinking this is actually quite sort of like a Yeah, it's kind of like a horror background. Even though the voice

Kerley:

actors are amazing. They are there's little bits of carbon goes for say music but background kind of Yeah, that's really good. Excellent.

Chris P:

Rumbling you'll get like Monster noises you'll get door creaking open etc. When you go into a house

Kerley:

or open a door a narration at the start finish as well.

Chris P:

Yeah, and then me reading first the game doesn't want to read

Tambo:

a very good Narrator, you're very good at it. You'd like to DM and stuff like that. So

Chris P:

I think you're very good. Three and a half stars. You sound like a b&b. I take on the rating system.

Tambo:

Alright, so let's go through a favourite scenario. So Kerley do you have a favourite scenario that you do

Kerley:

make Yes, I looked into it because I remember the scenario like it was yesterday. I don't remember the name. So I liked our party. Yeah. So it's called 1050 to Arkham. Yep. Which is the train scenario where you're going along and remember we said as Mansions of Madness in name only. And that's very, because you're on train. Yeah. But the idea is, you've caught this train, and then one of the passengers gets a little bit strange and starts, you know, it all goes downhill, basically. And you end up and spoiler alert guy. So I mean, it's probably Yeah, exactly. So you know, but the whole idea of it is going along and you gotta solve mystery, but then actually, I can't remember exactly, but you're running out of coal as you go along.

Tambo:

And I remember I got a phone call and I called

Kerley:

keep the train going. And dimensional riff turns up in the train station to and like you're losing, you're losing carriages as well as as long as you have to move forward. And it's just so full of so many really cool mechanics. Like even the train stops at a station. Yeah, well, you can get off and you can go around the station, but then if you're not back on within a certain amount of times, it starts pulling away again.

Tambo:

Do you know what happens if you don't get back into?

Kerley:

I haven't because I managed to get back on.

Tambo:

So you get a card called lost in time and space. Oh, really? You get out you come off the board and then you got rolled for tests and stuff and then you get back on any spot and go Are you okay?

Becky:

Does that Do you like it so much? Because it appeals to your kind of previous job when you weren't gonna be like, time then it's your own fault get away.

Kerley:

So for those of you who don't know, I work on the railway but it's coincidental I just really liked the mechanic so

Becky:

you're not interested in trains? I just really I know how funny you found it when people turn up too late and had tantrums that they couldn't get on the train

Kerley:

well going down a different rabbit hole with that one but yeah, basically my opinion I always remember from my railway days for you guys is a woman turning up at 720 The train was just pulling out and she broke down in tears down on her hands and knees and was wailing at the back of the train. I think if it's that flipping important if it's that important get up an hour earlier. Any car at the train station for half an hour with you know? Yeah, exactly. It's like if it's that important then they'd be more organised trains before but it's like it's never been for something that I'm going to break down in tears on my hands and knees in the middle of a train platform. So yeah, so it doesn't use me I'm

Becky:

gonna assume that yeah, I just read no that would appeal to you that you've got your chance to get off the train and look at in the ticket office kind of thing. Yeah. But if you're not back by the time that by the time the trends pointing away well it's your own fault

Tambo:

I think we'll make this as good as well because if you played a lot of the other ones one you're always going to mention and this one is just a long train Yeah. Different completely different

Kerley:

the end of the game at the end of the scenario with you putting coal into the engine in order to keep it going and keep enter the Dimensional Rift and if you don't have enough coal so yeah, so we are we will one call short. I always remember that we filled the scenario but it's still really good fun.

Tambo:

Yeah, I think I probably jinx it, but I find it's one of the easy ones. I've done. I've completed it. Oh, sorry.

Becky:

We didn't do well enough. We paid it. We have played that scenario.

Tambo:

I think I've played it a lot. That's the problem. It's one of my favourite scenarios as well. Yeah, yeah. Honourable

Kerley:

mentioned streets of outcome where you where you've got I thought we'd all done and then it was like right winding up well, we did that one goes and then oh, no, wait, there's a whole nother half of the scenario. And we got a right or kicking from what what appears to be some sort of love boss at the end of it. It was just really interesting was my first ever scenario I think and really introduced me to the world and kind of how it played and what kind of surprises it can throw.

Tambo:

Yeah, I remember that when I was good. Yeah, we'll be back. So

Becky:

one of my favourite scenarios I do really like the train one that is a really good one but the escape from in his mouth where you're kind of in a building and you've got this kind of mob that ends up going round and round and you've got to try and kind of avoid avoid at the time and then you've got to get to like a little boat area or something like

Tambo:

I know what it is because I hate this is one of my favourite ones, but I've never done it.

Becky:

Oh really? I don't think we completed it. Really hard.

Tambo:

Don't think we did it but you got you got a quarter ship to come into the top.

Becky:

Yeah, that's right. You got to signal for shit. Yeah, yeah, I just I think it's because it was the first time that we introduced a couple of my friends to it. And they really enjoyed it too and it was really nice kind of seeing them interact with bored and want to play and

Tambo:

yeah, I think it's a great one to choose from because having a mechanic of a mob literally walk and go around that square. And if you get caught in it you get trampled on Yeah, and you get absolutely annihilated and you've got to try and adjust right yeah. And to see your game to produce that kind of mechanic. I think that's that's one of my favourites that one but I have never done that scenario. I've tried it three or four times and I've never done a

Becky:

nice little honourable mention to the one of the serpent ones and I have to confess I don't know what the title of this one is. You're down in this is one of the expansions And remember, you're down in this kind of ancient ruin, and you're trying to align I think at one point, it's like the sunlight onto this target right here. It's

Tambo:

probably into the dark one. I would have said it.

Becky:

Yeah, I can't get but I remember, it reminded me of the crystal maze. Okay, it really reminded me of like, the kind of jungle zone or whatever it was on Crystal maze. And I just really loved that but we've only played it that one time. So, so

Tambo:

yeah, so another one for the latest was the the jungle awakens is the same one but one of yours. No. Jungle awakens is a bit different. You've got your there is a house involved in the middle when you enter jungle suddenly spawns up on the house, and then people start turning to sneak people. Oh, wow. Okay, yeah, that was one of my favourite houses. A good one. That rings a bell? Definitely. I think you have played it recently. No, no, I think we have played it, but not recently. You're right. That's always a good one for the treble ones. Chris, we

Chris P:

my favourite one is called Murder on the Stargazer majestic. It's a murder mystery on a luxury blimp, surrounded by a storm. Before the fabric of reality unravels.

Becky:

Yeah, I love that one. Brilliant.

Chris P:

It's one of the few scenarios I've played where there was literally in the game, I played literally zero combat, there was literally nothing and you spend about an hour and a half going around talking to people trying to figure out who does murder is before everything, everything. It's the fan. I just thought he was really thematic. And it was a really enjoyable just to try and enter like writing things down for about people. Normally, I'd obviously just sort of remember there were random bits and pieces, but trying to figure out who a person was because this person said this thing about someone else. And he found this weird little tablet inside someone's dresser in their room, ended up writing loads of stuff down and actually then trying to figure out I don't think I won. I didn't forget who it was played, but I loved it.

Tambo:

That was fantastic. That's No, it was one of the ones that firstly, introduced with my sister when when we played it, and they absolutely loved it because it was no monsters. And it was just a murder mystery. And they just they just, I felt like

Chris P:

Miss Marple. Yeah,

Becky:

yeah. It has the kind of similar kind of feeling to nemesis in that way. Whereas you don't mind if you don't win? No, because the story and the actual kind of plot that you're going through is so gripping and so good. Yeah, it's great. If you win, of course it is. But the theme and that yeah, you get hooked into the plot.

Tambo:

Yeah, so it was a really good one. So in fact, you mentioned most of my favourites are the ones. So another favourite of mine was when we played it says favourites when I was very clever. It's the hidden depth scenario. So this is on the same expansion. Horrific journeys, what same as the balloon and the train one. The other one is the hidden debts, which is the cruise ship. It's all based on a cruise ship, which is exactly the same. You've got to find out who sabotaged the ship. But while you're trying to figure out he's already sabotaged it and it's sinking. So you're moving through the ship and you're putting water tiles on the board and it's sinking so you got to keep ahead of the ship and there's creatures they go fight on the way or you leave them depending on where you want to do it. Plus you got to find out who it was by the time you get on the escape boat. Do the investigation as you're moving up and then you got to accuse someone of doing it at the end. Yeah, that was really good fun. We did that. And we actually accused someone we wasn't quite sure because didn't have all the facts. So it was like a 50 not 50 feed we put about 73% chance of us getting like wash is it we just do it and we did it and it was right. It's a great achievement if you did it right at the end. That was one of my all time favourite ones.

Becky:

It sounds like we all think that's probably the best expansion to get if people haven't got any of the expansions horrific journeys, is it?

Tambo:

Yeah, definitely. I

Chris P:

just love the fact that all of our favourites don't involve mentioned that is a blimp I love a boat.

Becky:

I love a train of madness. Yeah, yeah, I think that is a really good it's a really good expansion. Yeah, I have taken all mine like, not apart but they're all in the main box. And that doesn't mean I have to then have an entire box. It's just tiles. An entire box. It's just tight. That's just game pieces like small tiles. But you know, it's just the easiest way to sort it out. I think I made it Yeah, yeah. I like a complete collection yeah meeting Yeah. Yeah, that's it for Christmas didn't wait. And I am I made like a little kind of, obviously, I mean, folded space probably do 70 million times better one, but this was back in my day when I wanted to make them and I made like a little grid. Sort of, I don't know, put away nicely sort of setup. I still really quite like that now.

Tambo:

Yeah, so any other kind of snow so we can remember we did. Most of this has to be fragrant now.

Becky:

I think I've only played the ones we've mentioned actually because we haven't really delved into it as much as

Kerley:

we're mentally saving it for. Kat and Dunc cannot wait. But we just haven't had them round very well.

Becky:

Yeah, but yeah, I think that's a it's a really good one to introduce people to gaming because of its cooperative nature, I think. Yeah. And yeah, it's unlike, I think it's unlike so many other board games. So even if people don't think they like board games, they'll say you can save them would you like murder mysteries, and you can maybe lure them in with, with, you know, the blimp one or the boat stuff you can kind of just

Kerley:

the only thing you have to do is kind of say at the start, look, you know, we might not win this. You have to get your Yeah, straightaway. Yeah,

Becky:

tough, but that might make them want to come again. So they won't again,

Kerley:

maybe, or some people it does.

Tambo:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there are some other cool ones that all have different ones. You have thought reflections, which is like you go into a mirror dimension. So you do one section of the board. And then it clears it. And then anything that was going on and then it's all backwards because you go into mirror dimension. Oh, wow. I don't think I've played that. Yeah, that's not reflections that was a good one. There was one of my favourites was another one, which was good. The Time Travel one. So it was called altered fates. So you have two boards going at the same time?

Becky:

That sounds cool, right? Do you remember that one?

Tambo:

Pick that one. So you got the beginning of the scenario, sort of an a party and a woman over to Paul and then you split your heart team half in half and you kind of figure out actually you're in the past spoiler alert but assuming the game has been out a while but you have half your team or in the past or if no sorry in the future and the other ones in the in the time and then you can kind of work in the same

Chris P:

boat like it really like in the past you do something and then that affects the board.

Becky:

Wow, that sounds like the film looper.

Tambo:

Yeah. Oh yeah. That's how cool this this I think mansions good they got so many different ones is

Becky:

really ahead of its time, isn't it? You know, like it's really advanced considering this came out so many years ago. It's it's, it's still really clever. Yeah, super

Tambo:

interesting. Yeah, definitely. 100% so we can talk about some characters I mean, if you can rub on a so many with all the expansions There are loads. I'll find my first one off. I like father Matteo. He's the one of the original ones. He's the priest. He's really He's always hold out across. Alex you can find maximum focus is this ability. Yeah, remember? It's always when you're picking characters you always go for the one with a goodwill. I find this game so well is like a mind. Check. She got health and he got well makes you go insane. Right. So I always recommend if you ever play this game, always give one he's probably not good. Well, if you ever have anyone else like five one, right, Chris? You Yes, you can get quite insane very quickly. So there's a bit of a so farmer tests were quite good will and he's got a PhD and his Will check is high. So it's always interesting. That's

Kerley:

what I like about the game though. Like you've got really two ways of losing kind of thing is you've got wheel and health. So what I like about it is that you although you do kind of lose you go mad and then you get like a like a you've you've messed up kind of alternative wind scenario. Yeah. Which is really cool. Like it just really mixes it up a bit. So I don't think I'm gonna babble too badly.

Chris P:

That's fine. It's fine. It was last time I was asking we played I am my character went insane because I got I got stuck in the shed for too long. When the good bit not so then the only way I could win the game was if we cleared all of the interactive balls off the board

Tambo:

to the question marks when the question was gone off.

Kerley:

When I think what I told me once, so once once you've played a game where you're not allowed to talk, yeah. To say that you're not allowed to

Chris P:

talk? Yeah. You just have to be mute. Yeah, sometimes you have to steal items off of other players. Sometimes you have to push people around, literally physically. Push them into rooms and now people

Tambo:

there is there is one card that's only which you can actually you go on the spot and you kill someone and then the game ends. And I always take that one out. Okay, it ruins the game. Yeah, it's a game ruin. Because you literally if you go insane you got you have to kill someone. And the deal is you finish your turn spot with someone and you kill them. And then the game ends. And it's just like

Chris P:

I always say we don't play that game. Yeah. It just kind of just spit on it. Because

Tambo:

we haven't spent about in mansions if one person dies, you get one more turn on the player face to do it. And then that's it game over.

Kerley:

That's the thing is like we did talk about how much it was ahead of its time. But I think probably that's one of the mechanics was a little bit behind the curve, or at least at the curve at the time. That doesn't translate nowadays, right? Because there's a big deal these days as far as like making sure that there isn't a matter of time where people are doing nothing you know, player elimination games just don't they're not around hardly any at all anymore. Now Nemesis is probably the standout example lately and even then they put in a huge takeover in the body. Yeah, make clear but as a first place Yeah. So you know they've put given a nod to it. But yeah, so that player elimination things kind of gone. So I think if they redesigned it I think they probably remove that slide. Yeah,

Tambo:

yeah, but I think I'll set that up died. The whole team's got you got one more turn. So no one's out for long. Yeah, you're

Becky:

not sitting there. hours. Like the elimination one. Yeah, you're

Tambo:

right there. I take that card out. It's just done. Yeah. So yeah,

Becky:

I know my favourite character. Normally I just I don't care what character I am quite frankly, I'll just pick the one that means everything's kind of level like you've got if you need one person that's got more of this and less of that. I don't mind. However, if I had to normally pick I picked Silas because he looks like a pirate. You love pirates? Yeah. So mine is purely for the art on the card. I don't really like the pirate.

Kerley:

For the there's five different stats on you on in the game and it's was it as exterra T strength?

Tambo:

Strength, agility more influence brains.

Kerley:

The brain will have will. Observations. That's the other one that I missed. Yeah,

Becky:

I just pick the one that kind of means that it's a nice fair kind of well rounded. Well, if I have to pick I would pick Silas because it's a cool picture. Because He's a pirate and he's a pirate.

Kerley:

Oh yeah, let's go a couple of characters. So I looked these up earlier on. So the fairly basic and what they do but I pick them because they've got generally speaking they've got five which is quite good to have is just a five stat in anything. And they haven't got any twos which is also nice. Yeah, so I like a well rounded character with one good thing they're good at but also their abilities are super easy, but super powerful. So I go for Lilly Chen so it's just it's an extra 200 damage now so for the main reason not only is that very powerful but it also means you can give out the weapons to the other people so at the start of the game you get a really limited amount of items you have to kind of share between us you want more as well you can go I'm fine on

Chris P:

weapons we don't need a machete people just punch

Tambo:

people seven will there as well actually

Kerley:

seven world overall you know really, really really good. So yeah, so basically she does instead of just doing one on ARM damage she does three which is super powerful and good enough to get the whole game without having to worry about

Tambo:

weapons Yeah, I did well I'm not paid to say

Kerley:

it's you know, it's you know, deliberately well rounded. The other one is Wendy Adams who's I think part of one of the when they just really I didn't think that I would like it but I think it was one of the games where we don't pick the characters but you get a couple and you can pick one of those and one of them I definitely didn't like can't remember who was that? I thought right I'll try this character and actually she's very well rounded and her ability is underrated. So she let's get the wording right cannot become stunned or restrained which in that point I don't know if there's a particular scenario but there was like I think about six checks I didn't have to take Yeah, because I just I was like oh you will be son now I don't get stung nowadays restraint stand restrain of like bloody lovely so yeah, it was I just felt really super powerful stats were really good or round there was she's got eight Well, only six health but again as you said it's slightly in the favour of well I would say Yeah. Of the damage that was definitely yeah, so you know so I liked having seven or eight well so yeah, just overall both really good. But yeah,

Tambo:

yeah, generally over the board you can avoid damage something you just go away from monsters but you can't avoid well because always checks. Yes. Yeah, Chrissy

Chris P:

defensive my favourite, which was Wendy Adams.

Tambo:

You know, when the two favourites she

Chris P:

is brilliant. The fact that she's just some random orphan they just rocked up and is now an investigator, which is brilliant. I just think it's funny character. But the fact that yeah, as I say, you can just escape out of any sort of nimble situation without having to be pinned down is super useful as I say. In my last game, I exactly got that pinned down can move stuck, stay here and get beaten down.

Becky:

So if I was when I was only one day, instead

Chris P:

of I was some stupid gangster man with a two by four I can't remember what his name was.

Tambo:

Yeah, I had a bad experience. I always thought that if you want to play Rita Young, I mean again she's gonna go five well I think that's the worst thing ever but I liked her abilities you can move three spaces you can go on the board really good. Yeah, that's pretty Yeah, she's she's one of the best ones but she just goes insane too quickly all the time. And it's five Yeah, honestly, it makes a massive difference

Kerley:

but it's probably a weighted thing because you know three movement is super powerful in that game yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Tambo:

So they'll like the fact they get a damaged when you get damaged Yes, you've damaged cars when you get hurt you get these blue cards so if so if you've got seven health if you get seven how if you get injured and if you get seven health damage again, you dead basically. But what you do you draw these red cards if you get an injury and then you have to flip them and you read they have like an ability on it or something's happened like you've broken your arm. Yeah.

Chris P:

Oh yeah, broken your leg. You can only move one space or turn before you take damage. Yeah. That's

Tambo:

their face apps that allow you to put them face down which you don't have the effect or they keep them face up. Obviously face one up one's really horrible because they stay face up. It's very hard to get to go face down. You get here. I just think that's really interesting damage mechanic. And it makes it quite fun to play. And the same with the horror checks if you get horror, you get these blue brain cards. You

Becky:

get however many horror cards and then you turn them over, don't you? Yes, yeah.

Tambo:

Yeah, just to say when they have some strange effects.

Chris P:

You got your kleptomaniac so you you enter that space. You steal someone's claustrophobia.

Tambo:

That's one. Yeah. So it can't be three spaces.

Chris P:

Two spaces.

Becky:

So what about light as well and dark? You can't you can't do something. Yeah.

Tambo:

Yeah. There's, there's loads loads of them. There's loads and loads of the expansion as you get the more cards you get as well. You can stick in the mix. Yeah, I think that's a really, really fun mechanical. You get spells and we're going to depose spouse because there's so many, but they're quite fun yourself to a larger shrivelling, shrivelling with the name your skin boils and bubbles.

Chris P:

No just called me.

Tambo:

Yeah, yeah, there's always a quite cool spot as you do the damage into the on the app, what it tells you if you if you pass it with a load test, and then you flip it, and then you do the effects on the back, which can be sometimes good. Most of the times you get not good. You get horrors because you're scared of the sense of you just feel someone's skin off.

Becky:

Yeah. I like how descriptive it is. That can be at the mic if you kind of squeamish. Maybe this is not the game for you. But it does go into quite specific details especially when it's talking about you know, you've broken your leg or you've done this horrible thing or you've seen this hideous isn't Oh, actually that is that is really really horrible. So yeah, maybe not one for the

Tambo:

vortex into the vortex anyone wants to do that? Oh, he's hanging out popping out and you see this is very, very

Becky:

effective. Yeah.

Chris P:

The only thing that those sorts of things is it gives you the description of what's happening. And then it tells you what you need to roll in order to negate it. Sometimes the descriptions can be quite long. So what I tend to do when I'm the rating is I quickly when the text pops up, I quickly glance ahead to find out what the role is that you need to make. I'll tell the people what you need to roll and while they're rolling, I'll quickly then go back and reread what they're actually what is actually happening while they're pulling the number rather than me reading all this bit. Then you roll so you pass or fail. You're a

Kerley:

master storyteller Chrissy.

Tambo:

I said it keeps an eye on it but he's good. Yes. Now four stars now. Yeah.

Kerley:

Well either way it's gone from you know, I'm not I wasn't confident at all to Yes, yes. Yeah,

Becky:

I am. I am good at this.

Chris P:

My now to date.

Tambo:

Also enjoying scenarios. You also pick up items. Yeah, enjoyable fun. And there's all different kinds of items like guns, sledgehammers, machetes, yeah, random random candles that you drop them. Plot fires. Yes. Beware. If you ever pick up

Kerley:

there are some mechanics like darkness. We haven't really talked about the darkness. If you've got a light you don't worry about darkness. Right. And darkness only happens very occasionally. But it is quite bad when it does happen. Yeah.

Tambo:

You can't spend clues darkness. Yeah, exactly. And when you want your sprinklers, you flip lights from the pollution. So it's really powerful. Yeah, yeah. So that's, that's annoying. And then there's always torch systems making up candles and fire starts on the board. So yeah, there's loads of different items in there actually. loads. So that's again, it's the replayability of the whole game. It just keeps changing all the time. One thing we have mentioned, as well as the puzzles in the game, which I love the puzzles,

Kerley:

puzzles in the game. Yeah, they usually up based on the app,

Tambo:

so you haven't posted on the app. That's that's probably if I had to guess I don't manage that. Nope, about six different kinds of puzzles. I think I like

Chris P:

about five of them. One I hate is the rune one, we got a guest that I don't mind that one. Right, I'm just gonna guess all the green rooms and the news shows you how many are right, but it doesn't tell you what position they're right in and you just go yeah, there's two that might be green, but they could not be green.

Becky:

It reminds me of the game that you play called Wordle where you know the letters we don't know the order but also it's exactly the game that I used to play as a kid. And it was like a little plastic you had to have to to play it. It was like a little plastic board and you had four little coloured pegs that could be any you could have all white ones or blue ones or red blue whatever. And the other person has to get guests and it's exactly that game and that was called mastermind and I remember that clear as day I used to love that game. So that is a direct view if you liked that game mastermind you will like

Kerley:

movement one isn't it with a with a kind of the blocks you moving across to escape with your girl do them lock you up with a car parking app. The best way to do similar sort of thing is that but yeah, they're good fun little little games on my personal favourite of all of them is the photograph one if you remember

Chris P:

time and you got to slow down and then it's the one with a little rope.

Kerley:

It's got the little, you know, the, the string in between.

Becky:

Yeah, it's really good. Yeah, yeah,

Tambo:

that's good fun. I mean, I think there's more than that. And I don't do this in house where I always say, if you in the same spot someone is in a position you can help them. But if they're on the road, you're not meant to help them. Yeah, why don't we just get involved all the hard and get game to figure out

Becky:

what otherwise people are going to be sitting there kind of

Kerley:

what I like about the game in general is little things affected. Like for an example all your stats like with that one, I forget which one it is, but it's, it's normally like, if it's to do with a clue it might be to do with if it's to do with a lock it might be to do with agility. If it's to do with knocking a door down its strength. Yeah, you know, so you've got like thing people that are predetermined towards these different things you got make sure you got a mix. Like for an example a lot of these puzzly ones it might be observation and you get the amount of goes to move the you know, the photograph around all the block to escape as you've got in that start. Yeah. So it just makes it really interesting to try and get a decent balance of like, well, that tasks that you've got do down there, there's a you know, I think you'll need strength to do that. So therefore you go as you said, someone like that. So when you're talking to people's influences, and yeah, exactly. So why don't you Why don't you because you've got high influence, go and talk to everyone Yeah, whilst I break down my door or whatever you know,

Becky:

which is what you do if you have a real life paranormal. The beefcake would go and get the door down while the you know, the kind of manipulator would go and speak to people.

Kerley:

Invariably you get it wrong. When you're picking characters with

Tambo:

other good picks, like Kerley says, But you know, I like this one. Pirate pirate so

Becky:

I don't I don't really have a I don't because we we do tend to play really collaboratively. Which is unusual for our gaming groups. We're normally backstabbing and you know getting everywhere and we but with this we are really good at playing together. So I actually Tambo I just, I just picked the character that fits in with the thing because I really truly don't care. Yeah, I don't have a playing style. No, so I just don't care which which person I am. Yeah, no.

Tambo:

Yeah. So

Kerley:

well, I just want to really want to point out that this is one of those games I'm surprised you like because you can't backstab people well when you

Tambo:

say you're insane

Kerley:

you have to do it so maybe you pick low will intentionally screw people over Yeah,

Tambo:

like Yeah, well, no.

Kerley:

It makes no sense but Tambo's unofficial nickname is backstambo, yes,

Tambo:

it again. I will defend myself once and it just was done.

Kerley:

Swear on this. My my asked once, once you didn't do it once actually really pulled off really well. And then that was it. Maybe but the intent was always there. And I got reputation

Chris P:

now. No one can trust you. Ever. Yeah.

Becky:

Yeah. gone on how much we love this game and how great it is. I think one of the downsides is the price point. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sort of mince about that. It is an expensive

Kerley:

game. Yeah. Especially if you buy the big box and everything it Yeah, yeah. And then

Becky:

there's lots of add ons. And you can buy coloured, you know, painted minis or you can paint your own minis. There's an organisational box, which is not official, obviously. But it can

Tambo:

I've got the big one and it's beautiful. So

Kerley:

beautiful. Even the base get the base game.

Tambo:

I heard somebody say, like, Dan, that was a good lockdown project. Absolutely. Yeah. To myself. I would never call otherwise. But

Becky:

But I think yeah, it you can still have really great fun with just the base game, I think. And if you're gonna pick an expansion, pick horrific journeys, I would suggest, but it is an expensive game, because there are a lot of bits

Kerley:

on something. It's expensive on its own is all if you love it, and then all the expansions together. It's gonna say about what 200 quid I think it makes about 40 quid, isn't it? Yeah, it does depend on the expansion. Some are bigger than others. But yeah, to get the whole lot I reckon it's couple of 100 quid. Yeah, but by that point, you probably want to tell you really love it. Right? Yeah. Before it's worth the money. Of

Becky:

does depend on having it does depend on having a tablet, course, it you could probably get away with it on a phone, but I don't know. I think a tablet is an it doesn't have to be a super swanky one. I mean, we use your super, super, super old one, and that works perfectly fine. Doesn't need to be super spec'd or high end or whatever. But you do need to have, we do need to have some kind of capability to play. Yeah, you know, I

Chris P:

wouldn't play it on the phone, I think would be difficult. You need to show people you've constantly been sticking your phone in their face. It's just not

Kerley:

map pieces all the time as well. It's not just a narration

Becky:

so yeah, don't think just thinking oh, well, I've got access to the, you know, Google Store or the Apple store or whichever brand you go for, but it would be harder

Kerley:

to do it if there's no All options, but it's not like

Tambo:

I wouldn't say I know it's expensive, but the figures are actually not good. Especially the latest one, but the last template we're viewing in that that last expansion, that the snake was really detailed affilated is really good. But again, that was probably one or one more, more one of the most expensive ones.

Becky:

That's the thing isn't if it's got minis involved, it's always expensive. Now, my, my feeling is I don't care about mini's, so I'd happily have cardboard standees and that was gonna make T sick to his stomach.

Tambo:

I like minis for years.

Becky:

I just don't. For me, they're not worth how much they are that I mean, I know they're expensive, and they're good quality. That for me, I would happily pay quite a lot less just have cardboard standees because I don't care about Yeah, just little plastic bottles. Yeah. But

Tambo:

to be fair, I back the new the extra expansion for beasts and I haven't gone to the models. I've just gone for the acrylic, nicer, kind of plastic

Kerley:

housings. I meant to mention that to you, by the way. So you've already seen it on game found? Yeah, yeah.

Tambo:

I think for the full model big for the first box is where you get all the models, but it's quite expensive. I would

Becky:

like to see that as an addition to be honest, I think if I if I, you know, run Fantasy Flight Games, because, you know, clearly they're about to appoint me as CEO. It was. Yeah, it hasn't arrived yet. I keep checking my junk, you know, inbox. But I think I would like it that they printed it all in cardboard. And then you could buy the minis if you wanted, because I just think that would make it a lot more accessible to people. Yeah, because it would take the price down substantially. I think. I

Kerley:

think that's true of a lot of games. He's Yeah, totally. Some of the bigger kickstarts do give that vague option. But yeah, a lot of them don't.

Becky:

And it would make it mean that you could store it in a smaller box. So if space is a bit of an issue for you having boxes and boxes of ginormous minis whether or not minis there, Maxis by this point, because they are huge on me that is going to potentially affect whether the game

Kerley:

is a go or for you to find Lord of the Rings coin does big itches. vacatures. Yeah, that

Becky:

works. Yeah. Because some of them are just massive, aren't they? And I think I'd be totally happy with a little cardboard standie. And then I could cut the boxes down by half. But that's just my opinion.

Tambo:

Okay. Okay, cool. So I think we've kind of covered Mansions good. I've got I've full the hardcore fans, and I'd see how hardcore fans you are. I've got a little mini quiz we can do. I'd

Kerley:

love to put my hands up and say I'm not a hardcore fan. I love it. In some ways softcore

Tambo:

you never know. Yeah, go on.

Becky:

I'm up for a little quiz. Quizlet.

Tambo:

Right. If you pay attention to this, you probably get something anyway. Okay, so question one, . Alright, like how many skill test icons are that in total skill sets. So on the slide that your current board, you've got your skills, we have just get extra point if you can name all of them. Oh, okay. So an actual section we've got strength. Agility? Yep. Observation. Yeah, more influence. And well, hey,

Kerley:

okay, so I got five. I didn't get lore that was

Becky:

always good for the spouse. Yeah. Okay. Five, five points.

Chris P:

I got five. Perception instead of observation. I'm stuck in d&d terms.

Tambo:

Alright, so question two. What is the symbol for success hit on the dice? What was the symbol? You should have a varnish in this case you played this game?

Chris P:

I got it. Excuse me. It's like being back at school.

Tambo:

Yeah, it's a star so

Becky:

I've drawn that like an elder triangle so it's always gonna say no listeners, he's looking at my work.

Kerley:

I'd say I put a star

Tambo:

What did you say? Yes, put

Kerley:

a stamp on it.

Chris P:

I wasn't sure of a star or like a pentagram thing.

Tambo:

Okay. But this is this is gonna take a bit What about how many main expansions are there? Or extra point for everyone? You can name Okay.

Chris P:

Number one I've forgotten I know I said.

Tambo:

I think should have been paying attention now. I'm joking. This has been back at school again. That was like you just rewind it

Becky:

you can press the Back skip button but can't do that. Now. Stop looking at Chris isn't cheating. Honestly. literally zero.

Kerley:

Want a tiet to ride? Okay,

Tambo:

what's the number?

Becky:

I've said? 6555.

Kerley:

Get in.

Tambo:

Yeah. And they were beyond the threshold. Streets of Arkham Sanctum Twilight, horrific journeys. Like, apart from Chrissy. Path path of the serpent, serpent

Becky:

put Take

Chris P:

it to ride snake people sad mad. As far as like, honestly,

Tambo:

joking, you wouldn't know too. You don't really? You just gonna play it anyway. Okay, what is the picture or the symbol depends on what you see on the back of the damage cards. So when you put a face down the damage card was the picture of it. I know I did say they were gonna making that difficult, right? It's they want to make it too hard. What have you got back?

Becky:

I've got an anatomical heart. Very good.

Chris P:

Bandage.

Becky:

Bandage. I even drew it. drew it and I drew the four the four quadrants.

Kerley:

Okay, flippin clever. All right.

Chris P:

Next, the teacher.

Becky:

points I've got here.

Tambo:

The answer sheet. Again, one. Right. Question five. If you pay attention, you shouldn't get this. What year was Mansions of madness published?

Becky:

I know that one.

Tambo:

was like a little test, isn't it? Yeah. Well, were

Becky:

you listening?

Tambo:

And the answer is 2000. Yeah. Okay. Ready? Number six. There was only seven questions. Well, six. Now. What is the symbol for an agility test? On your car on the car character colours and the agility test? No.

Chris P:

Utility test? Yeah.

Tambo:

You'd be just looking at the character cards that are in your face. Yeah.

Kerley:

gonna guess but I'm not sure.

Tambo:

I don't think it was like a seven because you might get this.

Becky:

I think I might get this but I mean, you know. I've done a very, very poor little picture.

Tambo:

Okay, so what does anyone think is

Kerley:

I can might be a wind for

Becky:

a leg and I've written leg and a foot. I've drawn a little picture. Yeah,

Chris P:

what do you put leg or a picture of Running Man? Okay,

Tambo:

so I'm gonna give a point to Kerley. Because he said wing is. No, no, it's just a wing. It's just

Chris P:

now as soon as you said winged shoot, I literally pictured it as

Tambo:

just a wing. Yes, just a wing. This is gonna be pretty difficult. I don't think gonna get this any of you. So what you don't like is the crane the character? She's in the first one. It's the old lady that has her hands up in the air like this. What is her ability? That's very, very hard to do.

Kerley:

I don't think I've ever played as a. She's quite.

Becky:

I have I don't think she's

Tambo:

one of she's actually I should mention, I do want to mention that because it's on the question, but she's actually one of my favourite ones as well.

Kerley:

I'm gonna have a guess it totally if this will be like one in a million. Yeah.

Chris P:

So amazing.

Kerley:

Have you played with that character?

Chris P:

No. Okay, well, so my answer will not be right.

Kerley:

To you. You're amazing if you get it. Yes. Okay.

Tambo:

The one that you wouldn't see what you got.

Becky:

I wrote hard to scare as you might get horror like she's resistant to horror.

Tambo:

Okay, she's really listened to horror. Oh, I didn't want to give her but he put in this one he got

Chris P:

really good murder novels.

Kerley:

Agatha Christie okay, I don't think mine is right. Especially from your comment, but I thought she might be able to speak to people for free. Yeah, right.

Tambo:

Okay, that's a good shout but No, cause he's about horror. It's after you resolve a horror check. He came on crew after anyone

Kerley:

that's right but what you know if you want to give afterwards okay, if you want to get back in person, okay. Definitely you're definitely closest as

Chris P:

you mentioned horror, so yeah, I think you could

Becky:

only got 10 10.0 Well draw

Chris P:

I probably got less than that. Okay, I can't even count

Tambo:

just be a fun I'm gonna say

Chris P:

reasons I can't remember who took a couple of answers.

Tambo:

So there it is. Guys that's about mansions on this episode. Let us know your experiences and what you think of the game please do. Yeah, so we want to would you rather so um, the segment we do Would You Rather question and at the beginning, before we started the podcast, I should write your favourite and most hated game. Yeah. Okay. So

Chris P:

we're going to be evolving

Tambo:

knows that we could do that to begin with. Well, I can see back so I can't get involved. So what specs and I'm

Kerley:

gonna say Terraforming Mars him I would have said to him from us, but okay, well, Septima of them. No,

Becky:

you're wrong. Oh.

Kerley:

Really? Yeah. Over

Becky:

Ark Nova with the Marina expansion. Okay. Wow, I top game your game over the minute. The minute. That's because I've played a lot a bit on BGA. And I think there's a small chance that I might be getting a bit better at it. Your worst

Kerley:

case. There could be any one of Yeah,

Tambo:

I wouldn't have guessed that without was

Becky:

really? What do you reckon for Worst Game?

Kerley:

It's gonna be one of the Battley ones. I've written Great Western Trail. Okay. That was more to do with the rules and stuff. Well,

Becky:

to be honest, I was thinking about this the other night when I woke up in the middle of night couldn't sleep, because that's the sort of thing. And I was thinking, I really hated that game. But I there's a real big, big chance that I might like it now, because I'm a better I hopefully a better gamer and have more understanding. But

Kerley:

also at the time, it was our second ever play of great western trail. And we hadn't got it out for about eight months. So we weren't sure what we were doing. So every two minutes we were looking at. It was just a nightmare of a play. So if I would have I would I would ask you to play

Becky:

I would. Yeah, I would like to play into it currently sitting in the second

Tambo:

edition. Say lovely. Mate,

Kerley:

I'm up for it. I'm always wanting to get 100% on

Tambo:

so do it. Okay, I'm gonna guess Chris', it's Gloohaven. the second edition, And then it's Twilight Imperium like I said no.

Chris P:

Okay, so my current i like it would be Frosthaven normally Oh, you got Frosthaven, that's fine, but I actually chosen Marvel Champions as your favourite Yeah, because I have just got a new storage box for it now needs hideaway villains box and a hero box. They're all lots of monogram. Oh,

Becky:

very nice. Very nicely.

Chris P:

My new cubes I got as well. So everything just looks nice and tidy. Everything's all alphabetical order all sleeved. And that just makes me just just make messes everywhere. It's great.

Kerley:

It's what I need to do to my Lord of the Rings stuff. Yeah, and just look at the state of it all. I can't be bothered.

Chris P:

I just been like to just evening just put some music on in the background just going alright, that's out and mangoes first and that box and then for guarantees round separating all the space just because I'm a massive loser. Okay, but I absolutely love it. What's good? What's game? T? I'm afraid

Tambo:

you're gonna love this question. Yeah, well

Chris P:

as earlier, I like to sit in the corner and turtle up and be left alone. So don't take my stuff. I wouldn't get your stuff. I just want to try and be aligned in space. Yeah, I'm happy. That's fine. But then when people start encroaching on my territory, or stealing little bits of pieces of my things, and then I just kept on playing them off and tell me all day to do this. No, no, no, no, no, you take my stuff. I'm not building any more spaceship go at Milan.

Becky:

Try and guess Kerley's. Okay, I've

Tambo:

got it. All right. Okay. Dune

Becky:

1. I don't know I think Terraforming Mars will be up there. Maybe Eclipse because he really did like that the other night. I

Tambo:

reckon it's worse ones. Rummikub

Becky:

it's worse ones. Gotta be Rummikub?

Kerley:

Rummikub is Correct. Rummikub is absolutley correct. But none of you are my favourite game, which surprises me because it's been my answer for the last two years. Anachrony

Tambo:

we just have a slot for that year right. So

Kerley:

to be fair, there's a few front runners Terraforming Mars is one of them. and Eclipse is awesome. And if I get to the table more, I might change my opinion on it. But yeah, Anachrony for me wins it but not on BGA I don't like on BGA but yeah, are normal in game and equity is awesome. Okay, so

Becky:

now you yours what your

Tambo:

mind would be same as Chrissy Marvel champions because it's my favourite. My worst I can think of a worse because I'd like most games. I'm not saying you're gonna hate me. Ark Nova it's gonna be

Becky:

over. And that's fair enough. Me I can understand it. There have been times I've played it. I

Tambo:

think I hate it because I should like it and I hate it. Yeah, I can't do it.

Becky:

I totally get it.

Chris P:

In my mind, there'll be a game that I would like to play and I'll go okay, and then I just try to stay away from it because people just gonna let me down. No, I'm not playing it.

Tambo:

You might like it. But no.

Chris P:

No, you're playing it now.

Tambo:

Okay, ready for them? So would you rather never play your favourite game again? Always play your worst game before you play again. So

Becky:

you have to play the terrible game. Or any game.

Tambo:

Any game. Otherwise, you're screwed because you play Twilight Imperium. I'm

Chris P:

just gonna have a nap.

Kerley:

Come on. Just let the other person win at Rummikub.

Becky:

No, because you can't do that. You can't play game and lose on a good word game.

Tambo:

Because it's quick. Yeah,

Kerley:

yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Are you close? Because I hear that much.

Tambo:

Yeah, so you can never play you never play your favourite game again. Or if you want to play your favourite game again. You have to play your worst game if we play any other game.

Kerley:

I do. I'd like to not deal with that. I would like to use Anachrony.

Becky:

I know Yeah. Yeah.

Kerley:

But but the that pretty place would go down. That would be like twice a year now for Anachrony. Probably called the difficult

Tambo:

question because I didn't I think give up champions and come over for plenty of that.

Kerley:

I don't know if it's a good sort of three to four hour.

Tambo:

Yeah, I'll ask you about champions, I think oh

Kerley:

my god. Wow. Well, I'm

Becky:

gonna play

Tambo:

free for our game we literally I'm not going to do that right.

Becky:

I'm gonna play. Never play the game. I'm gonna play I'm gonna play my worst game because I'm hoping that it's not going to be my worst game when I play it. Yeah, because my experience is my experience of it was like, Oh, I did it. I still hate it as much

Tambo:

because it quickly came off never to place it would be wouldn't it be fair to power Ark Nova be quicker with it? Yeah.

Kerley:

Oh yeah.

Tambo:

So you could just to play game before the other way? Yeah.

Kerley:

Oh, no, no. Yeah.

Becky:

I don't know that if because it's too easy for me to say you're just play great western trail, like at this time, but that's really going against the point, isn't it? So if it made me feel like it did before, which was what is the point of this stupid game? I'm so so bored. That lasts for about three hours. I don't know that I could. I don't know that I could take that every time I'm going to play a game, so I might have to not know that. That's good. And

Tambo:

unfortunately, Chris, bye bye, champions.

Chris P:

Bye bye, champion. I can't sit through an eight hour game. Just to play a hour and a half game of something. You just have to treat champions like Pokemon cards. Buy the packs and just have them and then put them store them

Becky:

in your mind so you can play them in your mind. To be

Kerley:

fair, three player TI actually goes by in about three hours. Yeah. Quick, quick and easy.

Tambo:

I'll be there tomorrow. Charity destroy my home planet. Yeah.

Chris P:

I'll just trade you my stuff and just give it to you. They see lads, I'm off. I'm gonna go play marval champions by now.

Tambo:

Alright, so let's go on to the penultimate turn. So everyone what we got coming up and looking forward to

Becky:

we've got loads of events coming up. Loads of kind of weekend kind of time. So just as this is about to be released, I think in the future, we've got the fox and hounds. Devon weekend board game weekend, which is going to be amazing. Fantastic. Last time would really recommend anyone tried to go if they can. It's in a little village called Eggesford,

Kerley:

I guess fit. Which I know exists on the railway.

Tambo:

It's so nice to have. Not too many people. It's just Yeah, I would say about 20 tables in there. Maybe Max.

Becky:

Staff really friendly. Everyone knows that was there like they

Tambo:

always are. So they're playing games

Becky:

was great. It was really great. And we're staying this year. So I'm really looking forward to that. So we thought was not that far. We'll just drive. Yeah, yeah, that was a mistake. Yeah.

Tambo:

You think

Kerley:

to do with that? It was the lane. Yeah,

Becky:

it was windey lane.

Kerley:

It was an hour, which we knew. But it was the type of hour that it was going to be. It was actually

Chris P:

right, left, right, left, right.

Kerley:

as well. You know, it was just Yeah, it wasn't pleasant. Easy driving, shall we say?

Becky:

Definitely worth definitely worth the drive. And we did go back then. Yeah, we could have gone odd. You know what this is not. But it really was worth at the

Kerley:

end of the day, we didn't want to spend a few 100 quid staying away. But now that we've done it once we were like, actually, it's worth it. So you know, we still had a great time. Yeah, we've booked in this time. Yeah, good. I

Tambo:

look forward to that. I can't wait for that as well. Yeah,

Becky:

it's just nice to get together, isn't it? I don't think I've played many games yet. Sort of not this year. And it's not very far into this year yet. But there's been quite a long period for me of not playing many games together with groups as there's been occasions. So I'm really looking forward to getting in that kind of atmosphere of lots of people there. My work colleague has said she will lend me Apiary, so I'm really looking forward to giving that a go space-bees. You know, what's not to like? And it's Stonemaier. So the production will be beautiful. The pieces are going to be great. So that'll be nice. Okay,

Tambo:

Chris. Yeah,

Chris P:

very much the same. Just looking forward to playing some games with some friends, some strangers, mostly at these events that we're going to. So yeah, it's going to be great fun doing those. Apart from that. It's just my normal weekly bits and pieces for these champions. On

Tambo:

what Friday night if you don't pay for Steven, always be backup for champions.

Becky:

But wait, you got to play Ark Nova first, and you've got to play twilight imperium.

Tambo:

You can't play champion so by convincing Yeah, I

Kerley:

mean, it's mostly getting rid of my shelf of shame to be honest with you just working my way through those. Okay. Yeah, got loads of new games that I really intend to play. But I've been in the mood to learn new games, because I'm not like JP and Rob and all the others who like learning new games. I put up with learning new games in order to have new games. Yeah, but yeah, I absolutely hate

Tambo:

the learning. You're gonna get overwhelmed with games you haven't learned on your shelf.

Kerley:

So yeah, I've got to get around to him. But I've got a few Corkers like the last kingdom based on the TV series. I'm really looking forward to try that because apparently is excellent. Because frankly, normally most games based on anything to do with a TV or film are usually crap. But this one is getting absolutely rave reviews. So I'm really looking forward to giving that a go. So that one we still have got Paladins to the table.

Tambo:

I always want you guys to get one instant table because I want to bring this one

Kerley:

I'm interested in I will play it to make up the numbers.

Tambo:

I've watched the video often you would like

Becky:

we're gonna do it. We'll bring it Yeah.

Kerley:

So yeah, I've got a bunch of new games on there. So I'm just looking forward to working my way through me. Nice.

Tambo:

I haven't got much really to apart from obviously at Devon weekend off this released. No, really? I'm not really. When we're recording this. I want to watch the new the creator on Disney. Plus, I really want to watch it create some movie. It's just come on Disney plus today. I mean, it's obviously a while. Sorry. What's it about me? Future AI robots that take over and then they are at war with Terminator. Yeah. No, it's not no. It's greatest. I really want to try never got to it. But it's now Disney plus. I really wanna watch it but it'll be out for a while and I want you heard this episode. But he's just been released on Disney plus yesterday. So is it taking good review? Yeah, I actually looked at reviews to be honest, but it's my type of movies sci fi but yeah, it looks. It's the makers of Star Wars. The one where they got desktop plans, wrote one very well to make us nice. That's one of my favourite stars. Yes, mine too. So that's wonderful to this. Yeah. So sci fi same kind of looks really good. Yeah, so if you've got Disney Plus, he's watching sounds good. No, it's not really bogging with it. But hopefully it gives me Chrissy and me might play Marval somebody in some ways. And with that, our final turn is wrapping up and victory points have got to be scored. Thanks everyone for listening. If you enjoyed the show, please like and subscribe and review on your podcast player of choice and we asked to share the podcasts for at least one person you think would enjoy this also if you want to support the show become a subscriber to help shape our future content you visit our page on KoFI however you want to say it or get in contact with us on the details or in the show notes on our website will be back again next time with another episode. So until then, whose turn is it

TURN 1 - Player Count
TURN 2 - Let's Talk About Hex
Kerley - Eclipse Second Dawn of the Galaxy
Chris P - Mansions of Madness (swotting for the episode)
Tambo - Marvel Zombies
Becky - Ticket to Ride on BGA
TURN 3 - Main Event: The madness of mansions
How Mansions of Madness plays
Our favourite scenarios
The investigators of Arkham
The interesting mechanics of Mansions
The potential downsides of the game
The investigators are in time...for a Mansions of Madness quiz
TURN 4 - Would you rather...always play your least favourite game before your favourite game or never play your favourite ever again
TURN 5 - Penultimate Turn: What's Coming Up
Becky - The Devon Board Game Weekend & Apirary
Chris P - Getting more Marvel Champions to the table
Kerley - The Last Kingdom, Paladins of the West Kingdom & Orleans
Tambo - Watching "The Creator" on Disney+
TURN 6 - The Final Turn

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